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Copyright Law
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:29 pm
by obsidian
Big thanks to the Harper Government of the United States of Canamerica. Can't wait for Canadians to be hit with multimillion dollar lawsuits for downloading Shitty Sequel Movie VIII.
Copyright Law in Canada
Canada’s modernized copyright law is designed to protect and create jobs in our digital economy. The federal government has passed updated copyright legislation that strives to strike a balance between the rights of creators of copyrighted works and the rights of users... Rights holders are entitled to take legal action to enforce their rights under the Copyright Act.
Under the new law, ISPs may be asked to provide customer information when there is evidence of potential copyright infringement and the copyright owner decides to take action.
The Copyright Modernization Act also establishes new rules that give copyright owners the right to send notifications to ISPs alleging that a customer has infringed their copyright. Under this system, known as notice-and-notice, ISPs will be required to forward the infringement notice to their customer. The ISP will also be required to preserve all of the information associated with the alleged infringement for a period of at least six months. The ISP is not required to disclose the personal information of the customer to the copyright owner. The specifics of this system are still under discussion and it has yet to take effect. Under notice-and-notice copyright owners pursuing a claim must apply for a court order to obtain personal customer information from their ISP.
The Government of Canada’s Balanced Copyright Site
http://balancedcopyright.gc.ca/eic/site ... html#amend
Why Liability Is Limited: A Primer on New Copyright Damages as File Sharing Lawsuits Head To Canada
http://www.michaelgeist.ca/content/view/6710/125/
The Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic (“CIPPIC”)
http://www.cippic.ca/en/copyright
Re: Copyright Law
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 5:16 pm
by scared?
Lawl could help here but...yeah...well...he failed out of law school...lol dumb poor ppl!...
Re: Copyright Law
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:17 pm
by Κracus
I don't actually file share or watch downloaded movies or download music. I haven't done that since the 90's frankly I'm too busy with real life and when I do get online I play games I paid for.
I still don't like this though, it's complete bullshit signed by a man owned who's been bought out, whored out and does it with a smile.
Fuck Steven Harper, I really hope all these investigations into voter fraud/manipulation is enough to throw him out. He fucking shuts down entire sections of government to get his way what the fuck? Since he's been in power it's like watching Canada's reputation free fall into oblivion.
Re: Copyright Law
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:33 pm
by bitWISE
The US has some new scary copyright stuff going on right now too:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/0 ... 36781.html
Re: Copyright Law
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:39 pm
by seremtan
it's weird how countries with a global rep for being pretty awesome, like canada or australia, have lately taking a sharp swerve in the direction of gay and retarded
Re: Copyright Law
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:58 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
seremtan wrote:it's weird how countries with a global rep for being pretty awesome, like canada or australia, have lately taking a sharp swerve in the direction of gay and retarded
Actually several Canadians, including myself, predicted it would happen. Honestly...I think 9/11 fucked Canada up more than it did the US cause that's when all the crazies came out of the woodwork.
Re: Copyright Law
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:53 pm
by plained
seremtan wrote:it's weird how countries with a global rep for being pretty awesome, like canada or australia, have lately taking a sharp swerve in the direction of gay and retarded
oh gosh by golly what could be the common tie?
Re: Copyright Law
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:56 pm
by mrd
Good stuff, keep it comin' Harper. You're a champion for all that is just and good in the world.
In all seriousness, I'm like Kracus in this regard. I actually very rarely watch TV, movies or buy games. There's just too much shit out there. Why spend hundreds of dollars sifting through crap to find one good title every ten or fifteen tries? If several people genuinely recommend me a good title, I'm apt to seek it out, but otherwise, I just don't really care. This kind of legislation isn't the way to go though. And yeah.. hopefully this voter fraud investigation goes somewhere.
I always find it funny when governments use this sort of shit to try and prop up jobs. It reminds me of that Maddox article where he debunked some horseshit letter from the RIAA or something that said that the industry supplies x amount of jobs. Then he went on to say "gee, know what actually does create jobs, something like 60x more than your shit industry?" and listed all the top 20 tech. companies.
Also, for some fucked up reason whenever I hear chumps talking about job creation all I can think about is this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C4ayBHTES0
Fuck off with your jobs you dumb cunts. Try something new, perhaps something that will get you remembered as innovative, rather than as a dark spell that nobody can wait until the end of.
Re: Copyright Law
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:15 pm
by seremtan
plained wrote:seremtan wrote:it's weird how countries with a global rep for being pretty awesome, like canada or australia, have lately taking a sharp swerve in the direction of gay and retarded
oh gosh by golly what could be the common tie?
america was also invented by britain
your thesis is holding up well so far
Re: Copyright Law
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:22 pm
by LawL
scared? wrote:Lawl could help here but...yeah...well...he failed out of law school...lol dumb poor ppl!...
Geoff is having a meltdown about me in pretty much every thread he posts in.
Re: Copyright Law
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:56 pm
by obsidian
It doesn't really matter if you personally download stuff or not, the bigger picture here isn't going to be just about suing the pants off everyday citizens who pirated a movie. The bigger picture is that copyright reform is being entirely structured to provide large corporations with the upper hand while completely ignoring the rights of content owners (consumers who actually paid for the work) and the actual artists who are being raped in the ass by their contracts.
This particular piece of legislature seems to suggest that copyright owners can send people notices via their ISP company with legal threats over potential copyright violations... so called violations that have not yet been proven by law or investigated by law enforcement. Isn't this similar to what happens when a certain group of armed men approach a small business owner and asks them for money in exchange for the safety and protection of their establishment from say, robbers and arsonists? Who used to do that and what was it called again? Seems like a legit business practice, no?
Re: Copyright Law
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:24 pm
by mrd
obsidian wrote:It doesn't really matter if you personally download stuff or not, the bigger picture here isn't going to be just about suing the pants off everyday citizens who pirated a movie. The bigger picture is that copyright reform is being entirely structured to provide large corporations with the upper hand while completely ignoring the rights of content owners (consumers who actually paid for the work) and the actual artists who are being raped in the ass by their contracts.
This particular piece of legislature seems to suggest that copyright owners can send people notices via their ISP company with legal threats over potential copyright violations... so called violations that have not yet been proven by law or investigated by law enforcement. Isn't this similar to what happens when a certain group of armed men approach a small business owner and asks them for money in exchange for the safety and protection of their establishment from say, robbers and arsonists? Who used to do that and what was it called again? Seems like a legit business practice, no?
I agree, I didn't mean for my comments to mean that I don't care about this bit of legislation being looked at or passed, I certainly do.
Sometimes I wonder how it can be possible to show these fucks what they are really messing with. I think too many folk are relegating themselves to Interweb petitions in hopes it will actually do something. I can sympathize, since the feds are also trying to crack down on legitimate protest practices, but at the end of the day, 20,000 angry mobs with pitchforks and torches will have more effect than 100,000 people who signed an online petition.
Some days I feel that the only way shit will legitimately change is with some very serious and dangerous action on the part of the protesters.
Re: Copyright Law
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:49 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
mrd wrote:Some days I feel that the only way shit will legitimately change is with some very serious and dangerous action on the part of the protesters.
I can relate, but I'd recommend you steer clear of that train of thought. It's contagious if it gets out in the public and only stupid people catch it.
Re: Copyright Law
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:58 pm
by mrd
Yeah, not planning on burning anything down or something. Just exemplary of the level of frustration. Two wrongs don't make a right, unfortunately.
Re: Copyright Law
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:07 am
by plained
No it doesn't make a right
But it does balance things
Then fair negotiAtions can take place . Isn't that how it works?
Re: Copyright Law
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:08 am
by mrd
Are you advocating the burning down of various buildings?
Re: Copyright Law
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:15 am
by plained
No no of Croce not
Re: Copyright Law
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:16 am
by plained
No no of course not
Re: Copyright Law
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:24 am
by Eraser
obsidian wrote:It doesn't really matter if you personally download stuff or not, the bigger picture here isn't going to be just about suing the pants off everyday citizens who pirated a movie. The bigger picture is that copyright reform is being entirely structured to provide large corporations with the upper hand while completely ignoring the rights of content owners (consumers who actually paid for the work) and the actual artists who are being raped in the ass by their contracts.
This particular piece of legislature seems to suggest that copyright owners can send people notices via their ISP company with legal threats over potential copyright violations... so called violations that have not yet been proven by law or investigated by law enforcement. Isn't this similar to what happens when a certain group of armed men approach a small business owner and asks them for money in exchange for the safety and protection of their establishment from say, robbers and arsonists? Who used to do that and what was it called again? Seems like a legit business practice, no?
It's strange how all around the world, the media industry seems to be the only sector that succeeds in getting governments to grant legal powers to corporations without the need for a judge to intervene. No other sector is having such powers or getting them. It all stinks of bags of money being handed from one person to another.
Re: Copyright Law
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:12 pm
by plained
how will this effect downloads?