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It's official...Windows 8 will suck for software devs

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:24 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
Here's a very in-depth look at why Windows 8, it's closed platform and the fucking brilliantly named "Windows Store" will suck massive balls for everyone, but especially anyone over the age of 21...

The Next Twenty Years: What Windows 8's Closed Distribution Means for Developers
For the first time in the history of the PC, Microsoft is rolling out a new Windows ecosystem for which they will be the sole software distributor. If you buy Windows 8, the only place you will be able to download software that integrates with its new user interface will be the official Windows Store. Microsoft will have complete control over what software will be allowed there.

Microsoft has stated that applications for the older desktop interface will remain unaffected by these policies. As long as they only use applications that run on the old desktop, users will still be able to buy, sell, develop, and distribute software without interference from Microsoft. Many Windows users have taken this as an assurance that the open distribution model that they enjoy today will still be available in future versions of Windows, and as a result, there has been far less public concern about Windows 8 than there might have otherwise been.

But how realistic is the assumption that the Windows desktop will still be a usable computing platform in the future? And what would be the consequences were it to disappear, leaving Windows users with only the closed software ecosystem introduced in Windows 8?

To answer these questions, this volume of Critical Detail examines the immediate and future effects of Microsoft's current certification requirements, explores in depth what history predicts for the lifespan of the classic Windows desktop, and takes a pragmatic look at whether an open or closed ecosystem would be better for Microsoft as a company.
One of the commentors also brought up a good point: Microsoft might intentionally be doing this to reinforce it's X-Box brand and try to convince stupid people to give up on PC gaming and get an X-Box.

Fucking cunts.

It never, ever ceases to amaze or surprise me how the stupid and the selfish among us always always always fuck up a good thing for the rest of us.

Re: It's official...Windows 8 will suck for software devs

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:31 pm
by Eraser
Yeah man, Windows 8 scares the hell out of me. I'm also pretty sure MS will turn Visual Studio into a Metro app, which I guess mean it must be run as a full screen app. I just don't know how I'd cope if I can no longer see VS, my browser and something like Fiddler simultaneously.

Re: It's official...Windows 8 will suck for software devs

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:42 pm
by Big Kahuna Burger
windows :olo:

Re: It's official...Windows 8 will suck for software devs

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:52 pm
by SoM
i knew Win8 would suck from the beginning

i'll just stay with Win7

Re: It's official...Windows 8 will suck for software devs

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:06 pm
by bitWISE
Why would Metro branch off into its own hardware model in the same way that Windows did from MS-DOS? Forcing Metro onto the PC is stupid, but I don't see how it's going to just replace the desktop.

Re: It's official...Windows 8 will suck for software devs

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:12 pm
by SoM
they're moving onto the tablet market, soon desktops will be obsolete

Re: It's official...Windows 8 will suck for software devs

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:27 pm
by seremtan
oh yeah, the death of the PC. that was prophesied back in 1995, and also 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, and is due to be predicted again next year and in every other year afterwards

Re: It's official...Windows 8 will suck for software devs

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:28 pm
by bitWISE
2013 will be Linux's year

Re: It's official...Windows 8 will suck for software devs

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:35 pm
by seremtan
riiiiight...

Re: It's official...Windows 8 will suck for software devs

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:19 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
seremtan wrote:oh yeah, the death of the PC. that was prophesied back in 1995, and also 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, and is due to be predicted again next year and in every other year afterwards
I'm not talking about the death of the PC you moron. If you don't understand the current openness of the PC experience (and the openness for all the years you've listed) then you'll never get what this thread is about.
Big Kahuna Burger wrote:windows :olo:
lol...nobody makes games for Mac.

Re: It's official...Windows 8 will suck for software devs

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:51 pm
by MKJ
thats why we have Wine :)

Re: It's official...Windows 8 will suck for software devs

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:51 am
by Transient
Windows 3.1 - Good
Windows 95 - Mixed bag
Windows 98 - Good
Windows ME - LOL
Windows XP - Good
Windows Vista - Sucked
Windows 7 - Good
Windows 8 - HMMM...

Re: It's official...Windows 8 will suck for software devs

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:09 am
by Captain
GONNAFISTYA wrote:One of the commentors also brought up a good point: Microsoft might intentionally be doing this to reinforce it's X-Box brand and try to convince stupid people to give up on PC gaming and get an X-Box.
I've been saying this all along. It's even obvious from that ghastly "road map to hell" video I posted a while ago that Microsoft wants to equate PC gaming to Farmville and American Idol:

Warning: You may experience a sudden brain aneurysm during this video


Re: It's official...Windows 8 will suck for software devs

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:26 am
by SoM
what ppl thing of Win8

i like when he asks the fat bastard to try to shut it off

i'd take a sledge hammer to it

edit;

and how many of you turn off their PC ?

i only do it for hardware changes, else it's on 24/7

Re: It's official...Windows 8 will suck for software devs

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:20 am
by Eraser
SoM wrote:what ppl thing of Win8

i like when he asks the fat bastard to try to shut it off

i'd take a sledge hammer to it
Slightly unfair though. People hear "windows" in "Windows 8" and approach the UI with the old Windows design principles. They would be equally confused when faced with mac OS or Linux. In fact, the idea that you had to click Start to shut down the computer was confusing to people when Win95 was first introduced.

The lady who talks about how there's nothing familiar and people need training has a very good point though. Is a non IT company willing to go over to an OS where they need to give people a training for it first if the alternative (Win7) can be used by them right off the bat.

Re: It's official...Windows 8 will suck for software devs

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:02 pm
by seremtan
GONNAFISTYA wrote:I'm not talking about the death of the PC you moron.
oh
GONNAFISTYA wrote:One of the commentors also brought up a good point: Microsoft might intentionally be doing this to reinforce it's X-Box brand and try to convince stupid people to give up on PC gaming...
If you don't understand the current openness of the PC experience (and the openness for all the years you've listed) then you'll never get what this thread is about.
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Re: It's official...Windows 8 will suck for software devs

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:12 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
Dude...did you even read the article or are you just in a mood to argue?