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21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:28 am
by DTS
http://www.reghardware.com/2012/08/31/l ... _monitors/
2560 x 1080 resolution, 29".
In size, it would be a decent upgrade from my 19" CRT:
http://displaywars.com/19-inch-4x3-vs-29-inch-235x1
How much does a graphics card for running games at that res (or 2560 x 1440 (16:9) for comparison purposes) with 4x FSAA (or 8x?) cost? With a high framerate (talking 120 fps, though I could settle for 100 fps, I'd rather not use 60 if I can do anything about it). Games I'd want to run on it: that memory remixing game for one (which is not out yet). Syndicate maybe for two. Super Street Fighter IV I suppose for three. Not really interested in any other recent PC games atm, which is why my current PC won't run any (just running a Neo Geo and CPS1&2 emulator here).
Things we don't know about this monitor: black levels and response time. Knowing that monitors by LG have good response times, LG make them with games in mind, and this is a monitor obviously intended to display films aswell, from a company that makes TVs for people to watch films on, I think those two aspects should be OK. (For an LCD, that is, I don't know how it will compare to a CRT.)
Edit:
Added games I'd want to run on the graphics card, forgot you need to know that

Edit2: 29" not 27".
Edit3: 5 ms response time according to this:
http://www.techspot.com/news/49981-lg-s ... t-ifa.html
That seems high(?). They don't say whether that's grey-to-grey response time or what, though. Is it not considered so high if it's grey-to-grey response time? I can't rmember what difference that makes exactly.
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:10 am
by seremtan
19" CRT
just get a 26" WUXGA if you need an upgrade
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:34 am
by DTS
That's the thing; I don't need an upgrade. CRT is better than LCD, I'm not a fan of 16:9, but when it comes to 21:9 I'm interested.
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:06 pm
by scared?
Lol CRT morons...
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:07 pm
by Insensatez
I can see it's benefits for professional usage (traffic control, NASA, in other words people that need to use many tools to be able to do their job properly).
But if it comes to consumer market, who the fuck needs a monitor with a 21:9 aspect ratio?
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:12 pm
by seremtan
DTS wrote:CRT is better than LCD
no it isn't

Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:15 pm
by DTS
BS.
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:17 pm
by Tsakali
Insensatez wrote:I can see it's benefits for professional usage (traffic control, NASA, in other words people that need to use many tools to be able to do their job properly).
But if it comes to consumer market, who the fuck needs a monitor with a 21:9 aspect ratio?
the word 'need' is very subjective to western societies.
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:23 pm
by DTS
Don't bother; he obviously doesn't know what a consumer is, nor what the 21:9 ratio has to do with anything. Oh yeah, and he can't read.
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:37 pm
by Insensatez
DTS wrote:Don't bother; he obviously doesn't know what a consumer is, nor what the 21:9 ratio has to do with anything. Oh yeah, and he can't read.
weak troll is weak!
it's a monitor , not a tv. I'm having trouble playing some games on a 24" 16:9 because I cannot see everything from the top left corner to the lower right corner without shifting my view.
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:47 pm
by DTS
Then don't sit with your nose touching the screen, nerdo.
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:11 pm
by Plan B
Looks like a sweet screen.
That is, for watching movies intended for 21:9 theatre screens, filmed for that aspect ratio.
TV shows nowadays cater to 16:9 screens, so you'd have black bars left and right.
I think even Imax is closer to 16:9 than 21:9.
DTS wrote:talking 120 fps, though I could settle for 100 fps, I'd rather not use 60 if I can do anything about it
Didn't really see anything about refresh rates in the link you provided.
What makes you think it isn't limited to 60?
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:22 pm
by DTS
Aren't all new LCDs 120+? Except mobile device screens.
60 wouldn't make it very good for watching films on, you know, cause they are 24 fps.
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:27 pm
by Plan B
DTS wrote:60 wouldn't make it very good for watching films on, you know, cause they are 24 fps.
Does not compute?
60 > 24, so it would handle them nicely?
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:31 pm
by DTS
No, it needs to be a clean multiple. 60 is not divisible by 24, do you see?
120 Hz, for example (if you need one) will display each frame 5 times as 120 / 24 = 5.
Edit: At 60 Hz you get a hackjob of a view which goes like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3:2_pulldown#23pulldown
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:40 pm
by Tsakali
DTS wrote:Then don't sit with your nose touching the screen, nerdo.
in all fairness, sitting further away from a computer monitor kinda defeats its purpose at some point. and 29" of monitor is starting to become counterintuitive in a flat configuration. That monster should really be concave.
With the production of ever bigger displays, at what point will 'ergodynamics' come into play?
I have two 25 inch monitors and they are definitely at an angle to each other. Having a bigger monitor at some point loses it's benefits if you have to sit further away for a proper viewing angle forcing you to scale everything up s you can read text without feeling like you need binoculars.
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:46 pm
by Scourge
I use a 42" tv for a monitor. Works just fine.
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:50 pm
by DTS
Tsakali wrote:in all fairness, sitting further away from a computer monitor kinda defeats its purpose at some point. and 29" of monitor is starting to become counterintuitive in a flat configuration. That monster should really be concave.
With the production of ever bigger displays, at what point will 'ergodynamics' come into play?
I have two 25 inch monitors and they are definitely at an angle to each other. Having a bigger monitor at some point loses it's benefits if you have to sit further away for a proper viewing angle forcing you to scale everything up s you can read text without feeling like you need binoculars.
Larger text is in higher definition...
Either you want higher definition or you want to fit more on your screen. If you can't see the whole screen you are sitting too close to it; that should be obvious.
This screen is not about having a massive screen it's about having a wider screen ...
FYI it's pretty much only IMAX screens that need to be really curved, so unless you are going for an IMAX experience at home, you are missing the point.
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:57 pm
by Tsakali
nope you are the one who's missing the point, but i really don't feel like spending any more time selling you on my idea.
If you don't agree, than fine, we both win. You get a freakishly wide screen of which benefits you squander just for higher resolution text from afar, and I don't spend my money on something I ultimately see as an incomplete product.
You're clearly interested in the ratio because of movies... you don't need a computer monitor for that, you need a TV.
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:03 pm
by DTS
TVs are for TV broadcasts, not films...
I want everything to be wider anyway, not just films. It's not about higher resolution it's about a wider screen. Pretty simple.
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:05 pm
by Tsakali
and a wider screen at a flat configuration becomes counterintuitive, regardless of what you say , pretty simple.
Go ahead...I won't be the moron bobbing my head left to right like a lunatic.
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:08 pm
by DTS
No cause then it would not be used for films, moron.
When have you been in a cinema and gone
"Oh, it's too wide, I have to keep turning my head, the screen needs to be curved loads"

Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:09 pm
by Tsakali
Theater screens are curved in... the old ones? I just sit 2/3rds to the back... clearly we are both happy with our own opinion. Leave it at that. I've already wasted too much time on this, if you don't get what I'm saying by now, you never will.
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:14 pm
by DTS
I'm not happy that you're a moron.
Re: 21:9 monitor by LG, no release date or pricing yet
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:46 pm
by Eraser
DTS wrote:Aren't all new LCDs 120+? Except mobile device screens.
60 wouldn't make it very good for watching films on, you know, cause they are 24 fps.
Depends on how they're encoded. NTSC DVD's and BluRay's are all 30 fps anyway. You're in an NTSC region aren't you? Also, a lot of PAL hardware can output at PAL 60Hz.