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Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:41 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
Leaked document reveals next Xbox price, tech details
The document described a box of multiple CPUs and GPUs, allowing for backwards compatibility with the Xbox 360 through an included PowerPC CPU, an estimated 4-6x increase in graphics performance, and background processing enabling TV recording while playing games.

The plan aims for "True 1080p and Full 3D", implying an ability to run 60 fps games at 1080p resolution. The Kinect 2 hardware is included, allowing for four player concurrent tracking with improved voice recognition, dedicated hardware processing, and a "better, wider, deeper" play space allowing use in smaller areas.

The Xbox 720 is designed to be always on in a low-power state to allow for multimedia operation, to be "the only box you need for premium living room entertainment." Blu-Ray is included, along with USB 3.0, HDMI, 802.11n, Gigabit Ethernet, PCI-E, DisplayPort and SATA connectivity. Storage includes the Blu-ray drive, a hard disk drive, and flash storage as well. Video RAM is pegged at 4 GB of 128 bit DDR4 RAM.
Apparently it's only speculation, but it's a 56 page bit of speculation that was removed by Microsoft legal...which means it might not be speculation.

So they're making a glorified PVR/Blu-Ray combo and it'll have only average to slightly-above-average gaming performance when it's released (compared to what you can already get with current PCs or what'll be available when this thing comes out) and yet we'll be stuck with it with no new hardware upgrades for a decade.

And of course Microsoft will follow its life-long convention of stupid naming of its products. lol..the "X-Box 720" instead of "X-Box 360 2". Absolute geniuses at work right there.

Fuck Microsoft and fuck consoles.

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:49 pm
by xer0s
So angry...

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:14 pm
by MKJ
thats that leaked thing from a few years back. so any specs in there are surely speculative. if its real at all.

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:57 pm
by Don Carlos
MKJ wrote:thats that leaked thing from a few years back. so any specs in there are surely speculative. if its real at all.
This - it was from 2010 so is way off I would imagine. Even so, I think a 2013 release date will happen.

Also I dont get what the fuss is about with the specs? Every new console relased is always behind top end PC performance. It is just because its fixed hardware that programmers manage to get so much more out of it.

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:39 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
If it's old shit and not true anymore, then that's good news.

I guess my main gripe is that while I agree that programmers can refine and refine fixed hardware to get the most out of it, the hardware itself lessens the chance of new, more ambitious games getting made by the monied publishers. It's only cool for a while and then it simply gets in the way.

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:40 pm
by scared?
ur weird...

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:07 am
by mrd
Who the fuck cares about xbox?

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:12 am
by GONNAFISTYA
scared? wrote:ur weird...
If this thread was about next-gen diapers you'd be all up in dat shit, yo.

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:14 am
by mrd
Remote control diapers with USB plug-n-play ability, man.

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:15 am
by GONNAFISTYA
And go0f would post a Youtube vid of him playing the drums on it. :up:

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:44 am
by U4EA
GONNAFISTYA wrote:And of course Microsoft will follow its life-long convention of stupid naming of its products. lol..the "X-Box 720" instead of "X-Box 360 2". Absolute geniuses at work right there.
They should call it the X-Box 362.

If they call it X-Box 720, how many retards will think it's only 720p?

Maybe they should call it X-Box 1080 to indicate its resolution?

1080 is still a multiple of 360 though [3], so that makes it even more confusing. Maybe they are reserving that name for the third generation X-Box?

X-Box itself is a pretty dumb name though, and you're right about them being terrible product namers. Azure, Zune, SkyDrive? Silverlight. Vista. The whole 2000, then 2003, then 2007, then 2010 for Office. Fuck off with that shit. SQL: 2000, 2005, 2008 and 2008 R2 [which was released in 2010, so why not call it 2010?]. No consistency.

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 2:44 am
by GONNAFISTYA
U4EA wrote:If they call it X-Box 720, how many retards will think it's only 720p?
lol...I called it in January
GONNAFISTYA wrote:lol they're actually gonna call it the XBox720? What a bunch of retards. Not only are they completely uncreative in their naming conventions (hey man, it's like...double the 360 in every way) but naming it the "720" will do nothing to reinforce consumers that it's a true HD device, since the name practically screams "lowest HD res cause our box is shit".

They might as well call it the 320x240. :olo:

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:12 am
by andyman
U4EA wrote:
GONNAFISTYA wrote:And of course Microsoft will follow its life-long convention of stupid naming of its products. lol..the "X-Box 720" instead of "X-Box 360 2". Absolute geniuses at work right there.
They should call it the X-Box 362.

If they call it X-Box 720, how many retards will think it's only 720p?

Maybe they should call it X-Box 1080 to indicate its resolution?

1080 is still a multiple of 360 though [3], so that makes it even more confusing. Maybe they are reserving that name for the third generation X-Box?

X-Box itself is a pretty dumb name though, and you're right about them being terrible product namers. Azure, Zune, SkyDrive? Silverlight. Vista. The whole 2000, then 2003, then 2007, then 2010 for Office. Fuck off with that shit. SQL: 2000, 2005, 2008 and 2008 R2 [which was released in 2010, so why not call it 2010?]. No consistency.
:olo: nice rant, gg

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:29 am
by Eraser
I'm sure they're not going to call it XBox 720. Right now, it's still referred to with it's codename "Durango".

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:30 am
by Eraser
mrd wrote:Who the fuck cares about xbox?
Well, you should. The hardware Sony and MS are going to put out for their next consoles is probably the hardware games will be aimed at for the next, 7, 8, maybe 10 years. People are complaining that XBox 360 and PS3 are holding back graphics development in games right now, so there's definitely a relevance to what MS and Sony are doing to the PC crowd. To dismiss consoles just because you don't own them or play on them is a grave error.

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:42 am
by Ryoki
Eraser wrote:Well, you should. The hardware Sony and MS are going to put out for their next consoles is probably the hardware games will be aimed at for the next, 7, 8, maybe 10 years.
I hope to christ it won't be anywhere near that long :tear:

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:43 am
by MKJ
average console cycle is 7 years so its a possibility.

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:20 am
by Eraser
Sony said they're aiming for a 10 year cycle with PS3. That's not going to be a reality but console development is costing quite a bit and I bet both MS and Sony want their hardware to stick around as long as possible.

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:58 pm
by scared?
Eraser wrote: Well, you should.
Lol...Jesus...

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:23 am
by mrd
Eraser wrote:
mrd wrote:Who the fuck cares about xbox?
Well, you should. The hardware Sony and MS are going to put out for their next consoles is probably the hardware games will be aimed at for the next, 7, 8, maybe 10 years. People are complaining that XBox 360 and PS3 are holding back graphics development in games right now, so there's definitely a relevance to what MS and Sony are doing to the PC crowd. To dismiss consoles just because you don't own them or play on them is a grave error.
I understand the connection from console->PC but honestly, the last game I played more than once every 5 months was Quake3. Just kind of fallen out of gaming, gotten more into audio and music lately. It's kind of a shame that all these console kiddies are ruining the show but money talks. Same old story. There still seems to be a fairly thriving indie culture for PC games though, which is good. Obviously that won't be driving the hardware scene forward but, it is what it is! Maybe one day all the console fucks will wake up and realize that KB&mouse > *.

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:59 am
by Pauly
Look no matter how much you complain, they will never make it out of cake.

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:15 am
by Eraser
mrd wrote: I understand the connection from console->PC but honestly, the last game I played more than once every 5 months was Quake3. Just kind of fallen out of gaming, gotten more into audio and music lately. It's kind of a shame that all these console kiddies are ruining the show but money talks. Same old story. There still seems to be a fairly thriving indie culture for PC games though, which is good. Obviously that won't be driving the hardware scene forward but, it is what it is! Maybe one day all the console fucks will wake up and realize that KB&mouse > *.
So with the statement "who cares about xbox" you actually meant to say "I don't much play games at all anymore so I really have no real interest in this topic" :dork:

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:43 am
by MKJ
also, theres more games out there than just FPS.
mario with kb/mouse wont quite work im sure :)

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:51 pm
by mrd
Eraser wrote:
mrd wrote: I understand the connection from console->PC but honestly, the last game I played more than once every 5 months was Quake3. Just kind of fallen out of gaming, gotten more into audio and music lately. It's kind of a shame that all these console kiddies are ruining the show but money talks. Same old story. There still seems to be a fairly thriving indie culture for PC games though, which is good. Obviously that won't be driving the hardware scene forward but, it is what it is! Maybe one day all the console fucks will wake up and realize that KB&mouse > *.
So with the statement "who cares about xbox" you actually meant to say "I don't much play games at all anymore so I really have no real interest in this topic" :dork:
Well, yes and no. It was mostly an asshat statement, but I do have an interest in it. Just 'cause I don't play often doesn't mean I don't care about it.

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:21 am
by Unisaw
This is supposed to be out for Christmas 2013. I wish someone would give Ballmer a copy of Steve Jobs bio and lock him in a room until he reads it or dies (hopefully the latter). They should never let him near a stage with a camera. What a douche.