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Yes, it's Texas, but I don't see a problem here...

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Harmon said a grand jury will decide what, if any, charges the father will face.

"if any"? Why, he beat a man to death with his bare hands. How could he walk away without any sort of trial?

prolly because the guy was a mexican or a black...nothing to see here, move along.

Theres a film about this with Samuel L mothefucking Jackson ?, he claimed diminished responsibility or someshit like that lol.

*If* (and it sounds like a big fucking IF) the guy was really a kiddy fiddler I reckon the father deserves a medal tbh but in terms of justice, yea, you cant really let shit like this slide

He would've deserved a medal if he tied the pedo up and called the police. Repeatedly beating someone until said someone is dead is not an act of heroism.

If he was a paedo Im not calling it heroic, I do think its a service to society though

Bit of a he said she said thing innit, no evidence either way. Which is why there should be a trial, obviously. Dismissing a trial based on the testimony of the surviving party, lol. Ridiculous.

I mean ffs, this quote alone raises heavy, heavy suspicions of at least manslaughter:

“In the course of trying to get her away from him, and protect her, he struck the subject several times in the head and the subject died,” Harmon said.

Yeah, maybe he was some sort of hypersexual zombie who was immune to pain and kept on trying to rape that poor little girl.

Aye !, pretty daft to discuss the suggestion of doing anything but taking it to trial

Kinda similiar to the Treyvon ? killing ?, the killer was released because he claimed self defence ?, despite piling a boy full of lead for packing skittles ?

Sounds pretty fair to me. Don't mess about with kids because it makes people want to kill you.

Well done that man

^ Exactly.

Gutfeelings based on nothing make for a pisspoor justice system, idiots.

Another problem i have with this story is the claim that the victim sexually assaulted the guys daughter within hearing distance. How often do you hear of a pedo going about their business like that? Never? Me too.

If the bloke was a peado then he got what he deserved. Simple as that.

there's not really enough info the article to draw any conclusions. if the guy was still trying to get at his daughter while he was right there in the room, then fair enough; but if he just attacked the guy because he was furious - as one would be in that situation - then it's a different story. the article's a bit ambiguous, hence the varying reactions ITT

Ryoki wrote: Another problem i have with this story is the claim that the victim sexually assaulted the guys daughter within hearing distance.

The victim is the girl, not the dead pedo...

the article is ambiguous because only one person has given any information about what happened at the scene, the guy who committed the homicide.

I mean, if I just murdered someone I would definitely call him a pedo to try to get away with it.

these stories are always good for being polarizing and ambiguous as seremetan said.

xer0s wrote:

Ryoki wrote: Another problem i have with this story is the claim that the victim sexually assaulted the guys daughter within hearing distance.

The victim is the girl, not the dead pedo...

Imagine for a minute that the dad might not be telling the truth. It's supposedly why we have a justice system.

edit: just saw a news thing saying it's going to a grand jury so that's that. business as usual, if his case is compelling enough he might not see trial.

Ryoki wrote:Gutfeelings based on nothing make for a pisspoor justice system, idiots.

Another problem i have with this story is the claim that the victim sexually assaulted the guys daughter within hearing distance. How often do you hear of a pedo going about their business like that? Never? Me too.

Aye I was thinking his story seemed a bit suspicious, especially as the 'paedo' has no previous convictions for shit ?, then all of a sudden hes feeling up little girls in front of the dad. Might be the way the article's written but I have problems believing his story.

seremtan wrote:there's not really enough info the article to draw any conclusions. if the guy was still trying to get at his daughter while he was right there in the room, then fair enough; but if he just attacked the guy because he was furious - as one would be in that situation - then it's a different story. the article's a bit ambiguous, hence the varying reactions ITT

Eh no. Even if there wasn't any doubt at all that the man was sexually harassing the girl, then it is still wrong to beat him to death or take any sort of retaliatory action. We have laws and a justice system for that, and we all agreed to abide the law and have the police and justice deal with those that do not. If we do not adhere to those agreements then that can only bring misery and chaos. Sure, the man may have acted out of emotion, I'd probably take a swing at anyone trying to harrass my daughter as well, but that doesn't make it morally OK to do so.

Eraser wrote:

seremtan wrote:there's not really enough info the article to draw any conclusions. if the guy was still trying to get at his daughter while he was right there in the room, then fair enough; but if he just attacked the guy because he was furious - as one would be in that situation - then it's a different story. the article's a bit ambiguous, hence the varying reactions ITT

Eh no. Even if there wasn't any doubt at all that the man was sexually harassing the girl, then it is still wrong to beat him to death or take any sort of retaliatory action. We have laws and a justice system for that, and we all agreed to abide the law and have the police and justice deal with those that do not. If we do not adhere to those agreements then that can only bring misery and chaos. Sure, the man may have acted out of emotion, I'd probably take a swing at anyone trying to harrass my daughter as well, but that doesn't make it morally OK to do so.

TBH we all agree to abide by the law when it suites us, well atleast some of us do, I think id be morally fucked up if I never done anything (atleast beat him til he looks dead) and that happened to any of my relatives, if someone asked me if I would do it again after spending most of my life behind bars id hope id say yes

Eraser wrote:

seremtan wrote:there's not really enough info the article to draw any conclusions.

Eh no. Even if there wasn't any doubt at all that the man was sexually harassing the girl, then it is still wrong to beat him to death or take any sort of retaliatory action. We have laws and a justice system for that, and we all agreed to abide the law and have the police and justice deal with those that do not. If we do not adhere to those agreements then that can only bring misery and chaos. Sure, the man may have acted out of emotion, I'd probably take a swing at anyone trying to harrass my daughter as well, but that doesn't make it morally OK to do so.

seremtan wrote:there's not really enough info the article to draw any conclusions.

ffs

Way to miss the point there sunshine.
I'm not drawing conclusion about this particular case. I'm responding to your saying

if the guy was still trying to get at his daughter while he was right there in the room, then fair enough

Implying that it's OK for him being beaten to death if that were the case.

Then you continue to say that the ambiguous nature of the article is causing the varying opinions, implying that if the article unambiguously pointed out that the killed man was indeed harassing the young girl, that probably would've swayed over everyone's opinion in favor of the alleged murderer (him beating the other man to death being OK). I'm simply pointing out that this should not be true.

well, lets not miss the main plot point of this story...this happened in Texas, and if it wasn't for the wide spread and speed of information these days, this would most likely have been an open and shut case. But alas, this is now national news so his redneck "this is my land and I am the king of it" kind of attitude will not play well with the grand jury.

No one lies about pedos, not to get out of murder...