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Bush's press conference

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:15 am
by tnf
He's saying the same shit about social security that he did years ago...was it 78 or 88 when he was rambling about how the system would be completely dead within 10 years or something...

I can see the big CEO's drooling right now at the prospect of all the new money flowing into their company's stock...

By the way...


"Administration Misleads on Alaska Drilling Claims

As the Bush Administration re-launches its energy plan, another attempt to drill for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) is underway. The recent narrow passage in the Senate, and an energy bill in the House, makes it all the more important to know exactly what is at stake as the ANWR battle proceeds.

The administration and its pro-drilling allies repeatedly make claims that range from dubious to downright inaccurate. The following is worth noting:

· Arctic drilling will not reduce U.S. dependence on foreign oil Proponents say that drilling in ANWR will reduce America's dependence on imported oil (a dependence that costs taxpayers billions of dollars to station our military in oil-rich regions such as the Middle East). But the earliest any ANWR oil would reach the lower 48 states would be 10 years, and probably longer, thereby having no impact on America's current problem.

Even 20 years from now, when ANWR is expected to reach peak production, it will only supply about 3 percent of U.S. oil consumption at best.

· Energy independence can be achieved through improved energy efficiency
An increase in automobile fuel efficiency standards of 3 miles per gallon would save more than 1 million barrels a day. If U.S. standards for replacement tires were upgraded to those for new cars, it would save 7 billion barrels -- same as the most optimistic estimate for ANWR oil. [1]

· Arctic drilling will not reduce oil prices
Even at peak production, the output of oil from the refuge would be too small to affect prices. The U.S. Department of Energy's Energy Information Administration released a report last year stating that, "Assuming that world oil markets continue to work as they do today, the Organizations of Petroleum Exporting Countries could countermand any potential price impact of ANWR." [2]

According to the U.S. Geological Survey there are 3.2 billion barrels of economically recoverable oil in the coastal plain. This means that opening the Arctic Refuge to drilling would only increase global oil reserves by less than seven-tenths of one percent, meaning essentially no effect on world oil production and prices. [3]

· Not all ANWR oil is economically viable
Over 7 billion barrels of oil are technically recoverable (if money is not an issue) in the wildlife refuge. The amount that is economically viable is much lower. Another cost problem is transportation of crude oil to the lower 48 states. Western refineries will be at capacity when drilling commences in the refuge. The majority of other refineries are in Texas, meaning the oil would have to be shipped from Alaska down through the Panama Canal back up to Texas. Some experts suggest that this makes the oil more likely to be sold to Asia rather than the U.S. [4]

· Investment in renewable energy will provide more jobs
Studies by the Bureau of Labor statistics and the Congressional Research Service predict that 60,000 to 130,000 jobs would be created if the Refuge were opened for drilling. But the Tellus Institute recently reported that investment in renewable energy and improved energy efficiency would create 700,000 jobs by 2010, and 1.3 million by 2020. A World Wildlife study "America's Global Warming Solutions," states that if the proper energy policies were implemented, 900,000 jobs could be created over a 12-year period. [5]

· Environmental impact far greater than administration claims
The Bush Administration claims that new advances in technology will minimize the ecological impact of drilling, causing only a 2,000-acre "footprint."

The "footprint" includes buildings, pipelines and other related facilities-- but only where they touch ground. In fact, pipelines will cover hundreds of miles of the Refuge, and only their support posts are counted toward the 2,000-acre total. Gravel mines and roads were not counted.

And then, notes Jim Waltman of the Wilderness Society, there will be airstrips, housing, pumping stations, power plants, power lines, sewage treatment, and waste disposal needed to service the work crews.

The 2,000-acre "footprint" also overlooks seismic or other exploration activities, which degrade the arctic environment, with 64,000-pound exploratory rigs. [6] They can only travel on ice roads, whose longevity has already been reduced by half due to global warming. [7]

The U.S. Geological Survey reports that oil and gas deposits are spread throughout the wildlife refuge coastal plain in small pools and pockets, leaving the entire 1.5 million acre area open to leasing and exploration— not just a confined space of 2,000-acres. [8]

All of this, of course, poses an unpredictable threat to the herd of 120,00 porcupine caribout who migrate, forage for food, and calve in the area.

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TAKE ACTION
To take action on this issue please visit http://www.savethearctic.com and send an e-mail to your member of Congress.

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SOURCES:
[1] "Wasted Energy," New Yorker, Apr. 18, 2005.
[2] "Arctic Drilling Is No Energy Answer," Los Angeles Times, Apr. 3, 2005.
[3] SaveTheArctic.com.
[4] "Where Would ANWR Oil Go?" Seattle Times, Apr. 19, 2005.
[5] America's Global Warming Solution, Tellus Institute.
[6] SaveTheArctic.com op. cit.
[7] Bushwatch.org map.
[8] Wilderness Society fact sheet."

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:20 am
by Hannibal
His social security plan is DOA....it was a DOA a few months ago and it is still DOA. Plenty of key Republicans won't sign on. It's dead, Jim!


other than that, he's still a cunt.

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:25 am
by -Replicant-
I don't know if we've had a discussion about his SS plan and how it won't actually solve anything (in fact, in the short run, it will make the problem much, much worse)...the only purpose it serves is to get us one step closer to eliminating SS as a service of the gov't, and privitization is the means by which we can make that transition

in summary, bush is a cunt

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:38 am
by Hannibal
I'm far more worried about the possibility of the Republicans forcing a change to the Senate rules (i.e., killing the filibuster). The Christian Right's influence on the Republican party is GETTING WAY THE FUCK out of hand.

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:39 am
by -Replicant-
no fucking duh. and GODDAMNIT BUSH, your social security plan is fucking STUPID. ugh, if you know anything about economics, then you can understand how stupid this plan is. and i cannot believe he called that guy "stretch," very professional.

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:00 am
by Massive Quasars
He's talking about no child left behind right now, live on CNN (plug).

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:37 am
by tnf
Don't get me started on NCLB.

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 1:37 am
by blood.angel
Bush has to be the best US president the world has ever seen.
Who the fuck needs Al Queada or the Nazis when you have Bush destroying the US willingly.
The world only needs to wait a decade, maybe two.

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:24 am
by Transient
-Replicant- wrote: and i cannot believe he called that guy "stretch," very professional.
I can't believe he did that. And the guy's reaction said it all. The look on his face was a "I've been made fun of by the most powerful man in America on national television..." type of face.

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:55 am
by megami
Thanks for the info on ANWR drilling, I wasn't aware of much of that information but it only fueled my anger towards the measure. Sent an email through SaveTheArctic, too.

The only thing that comes close to my disgust for Bush's policies is mine for the opposition's seemingly complete inability to mount an effective counterattack against them.

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:21 am
by Freakaloin
u know the fagot was full of shit when the reporter asked him if congress came up with plan to fix the solvency problem without private accounts would he consider it...and he basically said no plan without private accounts...hes bought and paid for...

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:44 am
by Ryoki
megami wrote:The only thing that comes close to my disgust for Bush's policies is mine for the opposition's seemingly complete inability to mount an effective counterattack against them.
:icon14:
Fucking dispicable.

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:51 am
by 4days
there's an opposition?

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:55 am
by Ryoki
In theory yes, i think so... not too sure.

Modern American politics is so confusing since it's mostly made up of outrageous stuff combined with lots of insanity and apathy.

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:10 am
by Massive Quasars
Should I... ?


I will.

Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 12:21 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are...Texas oil millionaires and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid."

-- President Dwight D. Eisenhower, November 8, 1954

Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 5:56 am
by R00k
Great quote. lol

Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 6:03 am
by megami
I also remember Eisenhower talking about the danger of the military-industrial complex. Halliburton & co. instantly come to mind.

Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 7:11 am
by mjrpes
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are...Texas oil millionaires and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid."

-- President Dwight D. Eisenhower, November 8, 1954
holy shit that is awesome