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Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:59 am
by bitWISE
Just finished my upgrade. So far my overall system doesn't really feel faster at all. After all the reviews I was expecting night & day difference. Finder doesn't seem any different or faster.

Spaces and Expose are noticeably faster.
The display-all-apps mode of Expose has improved nicely.
Quicktime is the same as the version running on the iphone.
Safari is mind blowingly fast.

So far all my apps work (some of my geektools scripts aren't working tho) just fine but I had to install a patch to the iphone SDK which required a restart.

Apparently not all systems load into 64bit mode by default. You can get the command to check what you're running, and the how-to make it use 64 here: http://www.ihackintosh.com/2009/08/snow ... d-to-know/

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:02 am
by obsidian
Apparently, you can use the $29 upgrade disc as a full installation disc. Meaning users of Tiger (and an Intel Mac) can just pay $29 to semi-legally update the OS. I think the distinction between the upgrade and the full "software pack" with iLife and iWork is just to not piss off those customers who bought Leopard for the full $129.

I'll probably pick it up tomorrow and give it a whirl.

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:12 am
by DogMeat
Will this work on AMD CPU's ?

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:41 am
by bitWISE
Photoshop CS4 crashes every time I save for web. Had Flash player crash in Safari too.

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:11 am
by Don Carlos
Image

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:01 pm
by seremtan
it would be faster with a fresh install than an upgrade, no?

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:16 pm
by obsidian
Probably not much difference. It's not like it's Windows with a messed up registry and and tangle of .dll files or something.

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:27 pm
by Grudge
according to the 'tubes, an upgrade is the same as a fresh install (archive and install by default) more or less

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:46 pm
by Deathshroud
Image

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:46 pm
by Don Carlos
HA

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:50 pm
by bitWISE
LOL nice. I'm actually pretty impressed they got 64bit Safari to run Flash.

I can't wait for a 64bit, GCD enabled, final build of Chrome.

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:57 pm
by Deathshroud
bitWISE wrote:
Apparently not all systems load into 64bit mode by default. You can get the command to check what you're running, and the how-to make it use 64 here: http://www.ihackintosh.com/2009/08/snow ... d-to-know/
I just tried the fix where it requires you to add arch=x86_64 to a boot config file and it did nothing for my Macbook 2.1 . Sucks.

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:37 am
by bitWISE
Damn. Mine starts up in 64bit on its own so I haven't tried it.

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 6:32 am
by Deathshroud
Well, apparently regular Macbooks don't have an EFI that supports a 64-bit kernel mode. Thus, it is unable to boot into a 64-bit kernel regardless of the CPU's support for it.

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 7:02 pm
by bitWISE
Transmission doesn't work, you will need to grab a nightly build:
http://transmission.xpjets.com/

Also, itunes seems to load considerably faster now.

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:26 pm
by Doombrain
think i'll wait for a bit

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 6:35 pm
by bitWISE
vmware fusion wont run if you're in 64bit kernel mode. But I just got into their private beta test today so hopefully a final release isn't too far out.

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:32 am
by Geebs
Installing it on a MacBook air over my wireless network turned out to be basically impossible. On the other hand, it works perfectly well once installed, and I'm really not going to have a nerd strop about 64 bitness with only 2 gigs of physical ram.

Not even going to think about running the Mac Pro in 64 bit at this point as it'd break all of my recording hardware and with the speed with which audio companies update drivers, we'll be on 10.8 before anything's ready

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:53 am
by EtUL
but...but...i thought it just works?

At least that's what the trendy guy on the commercial told me.

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:21 am
by bitWISE
I love my mac but I still hate those commercials.
Geebs wrote:Installing it on a MacBook air over my wireless network turned out to be basically impossible. On the other hand, it works perfectly well once installed, and I'm really not going to have a nerd strop about 64 bitness with only 2 gigs of physical ram.

Not even going to think about running the Mac Pro in 64 bit at this point as it'd break all of my recording hardware and with the speed with which audio companies update drivers, we'll be on 10.8 before anything's ready
Actually, OSX has entirely different memory issues when it comes to 32bit versus 64bit and stands to gain the most performance from the transition.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08 ... _bits.html

But I understand what you mean.

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:36 am
by EtUL
bitWISE wrote:I love my mac but I still hate those commercials.
Aye, the kind of mac user i can get behind.

As far as I see it they both have their merits. I've been brought up in windows, stored in XP and not convinced in my mac usaged that apple is better for me.

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 5:14 am
by Geebs
EtUL wrote:but...but...i thought it just works?

At least that's what the trendy guy on the commercial told me.
I don't think the guy on the tv wrote the code for handling password protected wifi in the EFI (or whatever it is)... I suspect that the problem was the new wireless router doing the usual "behave wierdly until a restart mysteriously fixes the problem" bollocks. If I'd been using one of the new airport base stations which networks via the reality distortion field (all wireless transfers seem to happen at ten times the actual speed but at the end there's always still One More Thing left to go) I'm sure it would have been fine.

Bitwise, thanks for the link which unfortunately I totally failed to understand :p I think the biggest performance improvements for me are more likely to come when there's a better handling of multiple processor cores in Logic and its plugins, but I haven't yet had the guts to install SL on my desktop yet because some part of my recording setup is bound to break....

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:22 am
by Doombrain
Just placed the order. Going to do the mac pro first and the MBP if all of CS works for me.

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:21 pm
by menkent
apparently there are a few issues with Snow Leopard:
system crashes
security
compatability?

Re: Snow Leopard Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:33 pm
by obsidian
Installing right now... done in 25 minutes.