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Selling stuff based on other people's concepts.

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:15 pm
by phantasmagoria
I've taken some time off paid work to expand my portfolio and attempt to break into work that I actually want to do by doing what will probably be a series of character sculpts from l4d. Now, if they turn out any good, what's the deal if I wanted to cast a couple out and sell them (seeing as I've got no income at the moment, it would be good to attempt to get some capital for my efforts). Would it be sensible to talk to valve? or just flog them on ebay hoping they wouldn't notice? would valve even care? If I were a corporation, I'd see it more as a compliment than someone trying to leech off my product, but this is probably the reason I'll never own or even work in a ruthless business environment.

I've seen on ebay people selling their own (very poor) buffy the vampire slayer models, not to mention lots of other poplular media stuff, is this techinically illegal too? - if it's something based on a sculpt of an actual person, rather than that of an artistic concept such as a Boomer? does selling a Sarah Michelle Gellar bust differ from selling a Buffy bust?

[lvlshot]http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/955/snc00450.jpg[/lvlshot]

[lvlshot]http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1204/snc00451.jpg[/lvlshot]

once he's finished, I'll probably do a Bill, or maybe a Zoey.

Re: Selling stuff based on other people's concepts.

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:19 pm
by plained
soundslike a beguining to an awesome adventure!!

Re: Selling stuff based on other people's concepts.

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:26 pm
by plained
and lots of this type bisness is baseed around others concepts

take a look what todd mcfarland has done with this very thing,kinda

Re: Selling stuff based on other people's concepts.

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:35 pm
by phantasmagoria
He's commissioned to do his stuff, though. If I decide to sells these I'd be doing it as an individual.

Re: Selling stuff based on other people's concepts.

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:44 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
Don't talk to Valve if you don't want to hear 'no'.

Re: Selling stuff based on other people's concepts.

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:50 pm
by plained
@phanta

yea i know

i mean after uve done the bay

if ur set on these licenced properties as the bases 4 ur work at this time, i would think its one way or the other

either ur comishend to do these licesend properties 4 them.

or

sell em ur way on the bay !!

if they were ur properties or some that u had free reihgn over like public domain stuff or somebodys startup stuff ur fine.

but thier stuff thier rules !




one day if ur a corp u'll see things slightly differently maybe tho lol

Re: Selling stuff based on other people's concepts.

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:54 pm
by plained
this list is neat

http://wikibin.org/articles/list-of-pub ... cters.html

Re: Selling stuff based on other people's concepts.

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:56 pm
by plained
wow sherlock!

i'd like a huck finn only from the space cowboy future!

Re: Selling stuff based on other people's concepts.

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:25 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
Yeah!

Sherlock Holmes in the case of Who Made Plained a Spacker?

Re: Selling stuff based on other people's concepts.

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:37 pm
by plained
ey good day!

Re: Selling stuff based on other people's concepts.

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:00 pm
by YourGrandpa
Just don't mention Left 4 Dead and/or Boomer when you sell it and you'll be fine. Call it a Bloomer or a Boozer or something. :olo:

Re: Selling stuff based on other people's concepts.

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:04 pm
by Doombrain
no spamming, plained

Re: Selling stuff based on other people's concepts.

Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:37 pm
by plained

Re: Selling stuff based on other people's concepts.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:04 am
by Don Carlos
Phant - still got the pics of this?

Re: Selling stuff based on other people's concepts.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:41 pm
by xer0s
If you want some real answers, save up a couple hundred dollars and talk to a lawyer...

Re: Selling stuff based on other people's concepts.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:04 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
he says, almost a decade later...

Re: Selling stuff based on other people's concepts.

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:23 pm
by phantasmagoria
only what's on imgshack:

castings:
Image

Image

original sculpt
[lvlshot]https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/600x800q90/r/194/dscf8181.jpg[/lvlshot]
[lvlshot]https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/600x800q90/r/163/dscf8177.jpg[/lvlshot]


I never did finish the paintjob:
[lvlshot]https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/763x1018q90/r/293/dscf8776.jpg[/lvlshot]

the trousers are terrible :olo:. Sculpting fabric's pretty much the hardest thing I find getting to grips with

why'd you ask?