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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:50 am
by Fender
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:54 am
by shaft
Fender wrote:religion evolution religion evolution OMG TRENT REZNOR religion evolution religion evolution religion evolution religion evolution PALIN religion evolution religion evolution religion evolution
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:04 am
by shaft
just sayin, bro. you know im right.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:07 am
by Fender
and?
should I sum up your posts?
ZZZzzz...
done
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:13 am
by Silicone_Milk
I literally got a headache from listening to her stupid.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:20 am
by shaft
Fender wrote:and?
should I sum up your posts?
ZZZzzz...
done
Considering I don't discuss religion, evolution, trent, or palin your opinion of my posts is spot on. A+
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:03 am
by obsidian
So, her argument for Creationism is that believing in a ultimate creator will yield a better society whereas evolution has led to misconceptions and a broken society. She did not bring up a single fact or evidence and kept ignoring the facts brought up by Dawkins.
She needs to realize that there's a difference between ideological wishful thinking and attributing select facts to support her model verses considering all evidence and facts to come up with a conclusion.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:25 am
by Grandpa Stu
jesus fucking christ. every single time dawkins brings up a legitimate point she says it's not. it's as if the only proof of evolution she'll accept is watching it happen right before her eyes which are clearly blind anyways.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:56 am
by Deathshroud
Wow, I love how she does not offer the man a seat to obviously make him uncomfortable. I don't think it affected him much.
This shit is hilarious, every time he does mention any evidence she goes back to the "respect" for human beings, which I can only assume is a watered down version of Christian's destroying cultures to convert, and bring others to salvation. Classic Christian imperialism.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:05 am
by Transient
Is there really a point to watching this? After reading some of your posts here it seems like the video will only make me frustrated. She's dumb and doesn't want to listen to him, so she dismisses all of his valid points. Does that about sum it up?
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:07 am
by Mogul
To be fair, Deathshroud, I think that's the style of that series of interviews. I have seen a few other standing-Dawkins interviews with a camera man moving back and forth between the speakers.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 6:08 am
by Deathshroud
Mogul wrote:To be fair, Deathshroud, I think that's the style of that series of interviews. I have seen a few other standing-Dawkins interviews with a camera man moving back and forth between the speakers.
lol, thats strange but in any case its still interesting to listen to their debate.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:15 am
by GONNAFISTYA
It wasn't a debate. It was two people talking past each other.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:16 am
by GONNAFISTYA
Transient wrote:She's dumb and doesn't want to listen to him, so she dismisses all of his valid points. Does that about sum it up?
Yep.
Seriously...no point in watching that interview at all.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:21 am
by Big Kahuna Burger
terrible filming
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:36 am
by Eraser
The sad thing is that these creationists aren't evil people who want to do bad and bend other people's minds into their warped way of thinking so that they can be controlled and manipulated or anything. These people actually believe that their creationist stories are the truth and they accept that as something that is as uncontroversial as the evolution theory is to you and me. While we here are saying "these are dumb people, they don't know what they are talking about", they say "these darwinists are close minded and why can't they see that there could be another explanation".
That to me is the scariest thing actually. "We" are not opposing some evil nazi-like force that wants to hurt people, knowingly make them stupid or control them. They simply believe that they are following the right path. And that makes it hard to make them see "our way". Frankly, they are as close minded as they claim darwin followers are.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:12 am
by GONNAFISTYA
I've never heard of any wars being fought, any abortion doctors being shot or any people killed during exorcisms in the name of Darwin.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:55 am
by 7zark7
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:45 am
by Mogul
GONNAFISTYA wrote:I've never heard of any wars being fought, any abortion doctors being shot or any people killed during exorcisms in the name of Darwin.
Yet many religious people tag on Stalin and Hitler to Darwinism or at the very least, they equate Darwinism and atheism, as if either idea is the fundamental cause of genocide. While I do think think there's some truth to that, I guess they forget the Crusades or the car-bombers in Ireland, not to mention the Jews and Palestinians.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:28 pm
by Deathshroud
Mogul wrote:GONNAFISTYA wrote:I've never heard of any wars being fought, any abortion doctors being shot or any people killed during exorcisms in the name of Darwin.
Yet many religious people tag on Stalin and Hitler to Darwinism or at the very least, they equate Darwinism and atheism, as if either idea is the fundamental cause of genocide. While I do think think there's some truth to that, I guess they forget the Crusades or the car-bombers in Ireland, not to mention the Jews and Palestinians.
It still happens today with Christians converting people. Christian missionaries destroy cultures by spreading Christianity, not only in the US but many other countries. They try to pass it off as helping these people, but in the end ignorance and blind faith is promoted in favor of health and real education.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:39 pm
by plained
fender u waaaayy idioty pare down ur title plz! lol
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:51 pm
by scared?
listen ppl she knows all about evolution...she's been to museums...
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:21 pm
by Nightshade
Eraser wrote:The sad thing is that these creationists aren't evil people who want to do bad and bend other people's minds into their warped way of thinking so that they can be controlled and manipulated or anything. These people actually believe that their creationist stories are the truth and they accept that as something that is as uncontroversial as the evolution theory is to you and me. While we here are saying "these are dumb people, they don't know what they are talking about", they say "these darwinists are close minded and why can't they see that there could be another explanation".
That to me is the scariest thing actually. "We" are not opposing some evil nazi-like force that wants to hurt people, knowingly make them stupid or control them. They simply believe that they are following the right path. And that makes it hard to make them see "our way". Frankly, they are as close minded as they claim darwin followers are.
Seems to me that while creationists may not be evil, bending other people's minds to their way of thinking is EXACTLY what they want to do. It's the "duty" of every christian to convert others to the gospel, which of course leads to control and manipulation.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:27 pm
by Deathshroud
Eraser wrote:The sad thing is that these creationists aren't evil people who want to do bad and bend other people's minds into their warped way of thinking so that they can be controlled and manipulated or anything. These people actually believe that their creationist stories are the truth and they accept that as something that is as uncontroversial as the evolution theory is to you and me. While we here are saying "these are dumb people, they don't know what they are talking about", they say "these darwinists are close minded and why can't they see that there could be another explanation".
That to me is the scariest thing actually. "We" are not opposing some evil nazi-like force that wants to hurt people, knowingly make them stupid or control them. They simply believe that they are following the right path. And that makes it hard to make them see "our way". Frankly, they are as close minded as they claim darwin followers are.
Their argument is based in faith which lacks any credible evidence.
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:50 pm
by seremtan
Eraser wrote:"these darwinists are close minded and why can't they see that there could be another explanation"
dawkins should have done a switch and asked her to concede the *possibility* that god isn't the creator, then accused her of close-mindedness when she didn't - as i'm she wouldn't
