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$1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:01 am
by Eraser
A federal jury ruled Thursday that Jammie Thomas-Rasset willfully violated the copyrights on 24 songs, and awarded recording companies $1.92 million, or $80,000 per song.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_tec_music_downloading


I don't understand the American legal system. How do they justify the $80,000 per song? If it's 24 songs she downloaded, then shouldn't she get the same kind of fine that you'd get for shoplifting 2 or 3 CD's? I doubt a petty thief would have to pay 1.9 million dollar over stealing 3 CD's.

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:43 am
by MKJ
but its recursive!
by downloading, she MUST have also shared them with others, who in turn shared them with others, etc!

come to think of it, the fine should be $ ∞

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:13 am
by Captain a13n
This doesn't make sense at all.

Because whites has ignored copyright of blacks while attaching price tags, that is piracy, anyone can ignore as well.

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:23 am
by MKJ
yes. *the article* is what doesnt make sense here.

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:26 am
by Captain a13n
Everyone's piracy is the universal friendship.
Only someone's piracy is the universal music.

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:35 am
by Massive Quasars
I thought we agreed, no blacks and jews, when we wrote copyright law?

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:08 am
by Captain a13n
Some inter-national merchants are apparently pirates, includign potsc.

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:34 pm
by ^misantropia^
I sometimes wonder how a13n's brain is wired.

Back on topic, this broad got slapped with this gargantuan fine because she:

a) appealed when she was already convicted (and obviously guilty)
b) was caught lying during the trial
c) held the jury in contempt

In short, she brought it on herself.

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:28 pm
by Eraser
^misantropia^ wrote:I sometimes wonder how a13n's brain is wired.

Back on topic, this broad got slapped with this gargantuan fine because she:

a) appealed when she was already convicted (and obviously guilty)
b) was caught lying during the trial
c) held the jury in contempt

In short, she brought it on herself.
Yes, because that's how justice works. Always address the judge with "your honor" or we'll present you a gazillion dollar fine for not being nice.

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:22 pm
by lars63
I think that fine is way out of line, seems silly to award that much when the companies involved have already stated they will settle for less.

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:30 pm
by r3t
Eraser wrote:
^misantropia^ wrote:I sometimes wonder how a13n's brain is wired.

Back on topic, this broad got slapped with this gargantuan fine because she:

a) appealed when she was already convicted (and obviously guilty)
b) was caught lying during the trial
c) held the jury in contempt

In short, she brought it on herself.
Yes, because that's how justice works. Always address the judge with "your honor" or we'll present you a gazillion dollar fine for not being nice.
I'll take that a step further: if the jury doesn't like how you look, or how you smell, or how you wear a green shirt over purple trousers, your fine will be higher. Great legal system there!

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:29 pm
by xer0s
What?

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:41 pm
by ^misantropia^
Eraser wrote:Yes, because that's how justice works. Always address the judge with "your honor" or we'll present you a gazillion dollar fine for not being nice.
You appear to have missed points A and B, Eraser.

BTW, I'm due for a job interview at that (ex?)company of yours, this Wednesday. Care for a beer afterwards?

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:42 pm
by ^misantropia^
r3t wrote:or how you wear a green shirt over purple trousers
Are you implying that wearing green over purple shouldn't be a punishable offense?

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:05 am
by Eraser
^misantropia^ wrote:You appear to have missed points A and B, Eraser.
Lying in court gets you a 1.9 million dollar fine?
^misantropia^ wrote: BTW, I'm due for a job interview at that (ex?)company of yours, this Wednesday. Care for a beer afterwards?
Nice.
I might. Depends on the time. It's indeed my ex company now so I'm stuck till 6 or so at my new job in Rotterdam.

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:19 am
by ^misantropia^
Lying in court gets you a 1.9 million dollar fine?
Not just lying but stupidity in general and wasting the court's time.
I might. Depends on the time. It's indeed my ex company now so I'm stuck till 6 or so at my new job in Rotterdam.
I'm from Rotterdam so that's no problem. Where is your office located, Eraser?

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:04 pm
by Eraser
Near Rotterdam Airport (Zestienhoven).

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:38 pm
by plained
ok i'm on my way!

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:39 pm
by MKJ
rofl, rotterdam...

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:43 pm
by brisk
Exactly how does one pay back $1.9m? More lols from the copyright bullies in America.

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:09 pm
by vesp
rotterdam, or anywhere

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:50 pm
by xer0s
brisk wrote:Exactly how does one pay back $1.9m? More lols from the copyright bullies in America.
They'll just take everything she's got and the rest will go into jail time.

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:09 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
Fuck...my fine would be in the gazillions.

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:15 pm
by xer0s
The fine isn't relevant to weight...

Re: $1.9m in damages over 24 downloaded songs

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:12 pm
by Fender
OH SNAP!