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Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:03 am
by DRuM
If both these guys had been in the same generation and fought each other when they were both at their peak, who do you reckon would have won? Would Ali have been regarded as the king of boxing or Tyson? :question:

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:20 am
by creep
Tyson.

He's not smart enough for Ali's mental game to have any effect.

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:29 am
by tnf
Although he was a bit past his prime at the time, Tyson was completely outlcassed as a boxer by guys like Evander and Lennox Lewis when he fought them. Also, had Ali been training with today's advances in diet/exercise/strength you'd have have an even better Ali.

I always thought a Lennox Lewis at his peak beats Tyson at his peak. That being the case, I think Ali beats him....but its really hard to do any sort of prediction on this kind of stuff because no matter what anyone says about him, every boxer is one Tyson uppercut away from being knocked out....

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:51 am
by lars63
Tyson was impressive fighter, Ali was magic, he was big, hit hard and move very fast, put all that with those long arms of his makes Tyson a loser in this fight.

Sure would be great to see a fight like that, we can only surmise what the outcome would really be

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:06 am
by LawL
In his prime Tyson would have beaten Ali. Most people disagree with this due to their dislike for Tyson's personal life and are unable to remain objective.

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:07 am
by Underpants?
Tyson has an amazingly powerful bite, too.

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:10 am
by horton
not being a boxer my opinion is worth next to nothing but...

Tyson in his prime, would have beaten anyone else in their prime.
Tyson was past it when he fought Holyfield and Lewis.

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:21 am
by ek
tyson hands down, aint no dumb nigga gonna keep a nigga down

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:59 pm
by Maiden
tyson 85-88 with rooney in the corner would beat anyone. any point after that, Ali would take him.

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:10 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
Ali would win. Tyson in his prime wasn't fighting guys who could hit him hard and a lot, like Ali would have.

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:41 pm
by plained
no clue as usual rofl

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:38 pm
by Don Carlos
Ali purely because of the speed

Few quick shots, Tyson would be stunned... then times that by 10 and then you have Tyson down...

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:08 pm
by DRuM
I just found this, with ali and tyson on the same show, and funny enough, Ali gets asked the same question.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki4UKsI8bms

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:59 am
by Cooldown
If Ali survives the first few rounds, he wins.

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:51 am
by SOAPboy
Cooldown wrote:If Ali survives the first few rounds, he wins.

This basicly.

IF ali dont get hit. Hes going to wear down tyson.

Tho all it would take is tyson to connect. He hit like a fucking mack truck.

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:14 am
by Dr_Watson
Cooldown wrote:If Ali survives the first few rounds, he wins.
the "little mac" strategy.

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 8:05 am
by LawL
riddla wrote:Go watch Ali/Foreman and you'll realize Tyson was an unskilled noob in comparison to each.
If you think Ali and Foreman were more skilled than Tyson that's fine. If you also think Tyson was literally an unskilled noob in comparison then you've obviously not got the slightest clue as to what you're talking about.

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 1:21 pm
by surgeon62
IMHO... Tyson didn't stay good long enough to actually reach his prime. If he'd maintained some sense of self control long enough to get some more years of legit experience, he might have been able to give Ali a run.

The one uppercut away argument is still valid though...

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:20 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
Tyson when he was young, fought bums. Ali took an incredible amount of punishment in his fights and most often came out victorious.

Tyson could never come close to absorbing the type of punishment that Ali could. Plus Ali was much faster. Tyson would have the wild card of his knockout punch though.

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 1:16 am
by ajerara
ali, for sure. in his prime he was unstoppable.

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:22 am
by Anhedoniac
Why the hell (even counting in Islam bollox) would anyone change "Cassius Marcellus Clay" to "Muhammad Ali"?? He owned himself there imo.

(He would have taken Tyson though.)

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:33 am
by LawL
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:Tyson when he was young, fought bums. Ali took an incredible amount of punishment in his fights and most often came out victorious.

Tyson could never come close to absorbing the type of punishment that Ali could. Plus Ali was much faster. Tyson would have the wild card of his knockout punch though.
ROFL... stick to gay politics chump. :olo:

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 2:41 am
by LawL
Yeah he's right.

Tyson never took any punishment. I mean, boxers don't take any punishment in all those years of training and fighting it takes to become a multiple world champion. I doubt Tyson had ever received a punch at all before his first professional defeat.

And even if he ever did take punishment, he couldn't handle it like Ali, just ask Puff. Plus Tyson was a literal sloth, I've never seen a boxer move so slow.

ROFL... :olo:

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:33 am
by Scourge
LawL wrote:Yeah he's right.

Tyson never took any punishment. I mean, boxers don't take any punishment in all those years of training and fighting it takes to become a multiple world champion. I doubt Tyson had ever received a punch at all before his first professional defeat.

And even if he ever did take punishment, he couldn't handle it like Ali, just ask Puff. Plus Tyson was a literal sloth, I've never seen a boxer move so slow.

ROFL... :olo:
Yeah, because that's exactly what he meant. Yeah, every boxer goes through the stages. Tyson had his days in the gym and in the sun, and his training. But, Ali took it to another level, a level that Tyson can't reach. I think Ali would have owned Tyson in a bad way. His technique was superior to Tyson's and I don't think Tyson would have had the chance to land the "winning punch" as easily as he might have liked. Same as when Tyson fought Holyfield. :dork:

Re: Muhammed Ali v Mike Tyson

Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:35 am
by Scourge
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