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Does honey have good carbs (like fruit) or bad carbs (like bread)?

I thought sugar was basicly bad carbs...

Honey is almost 100% sugar, so it's good for postworkout and early mornings. It's got about 50mg of potassium per 100g, too.

ironically, i just ate some honey on toast.

I'd like to eat a honey tonight...

Excerpt from Wikpedia.

Health benefits

In addition to its use as a sweetener, all honey has antibacterial properties and can be used as burn and wound dressing. Manuka, a strong tasting monofloral honey from New Zealand, has been shown to have greatly increased antibacterial activity and has become widely marketed for this property.

Honey may also be used in homemade beauty remedies and an inexpensive anti-acne treatment.

Precautions

Honey is, however, not always healthy. Because it is gathered from flowers in the wild, there are certain times and places when the honey produced is toxic, see Grayanotoxin. Rhododendrons and azaleas have nectar that is poisonous to humans although harmless to bees, producing the toxic honey. In some areas of the world the hives are emptied immediately after the flowering season and cleaned of any residue to prevent accidental poisoning. Such poisonous honey is very rarely encountered. The shape of the Azalea flower makes access to nectar difficult for honeybees, and during the time at which Azaleas bloom there are almost always other flowers in bloom that are more appealing to the honeybee.

Honey, corn syrup and other sweeteners are also potentially extremely dangerous for infants. This is because, when mixed with the non-acidic digestive juices of an infant, it creates an ideal medium for botulinum spores to grow and produce toxin. Botulinum spores are among the few bacteria that survive in honey, but also are widely present in the environment. While these spores are harmless to adults, because of stomach acidity, an infant's digestive system is not yet developed enough to destroy them, and the spores could potentially cause infant botulism. For this reason, it is advised that neither honey, nor any other sweetener, should be given to children under the age of 18 months. Once a child is eating solid food, the digestive juices are acidic enough to prevent the growth of the spores. Honey is sometimes cited as a source of the spores, which it can be, but the spores are everywhere, even in household dust.

Sweeteners should also not be fed to puppies as they can cause them to go into a "sugar high". The sugar crash that follows can cause them to lose consciousness or die. Consult a veterinarian immediately if your puppy/puppies ingest(s) a sweetener.

bee puke.... mmmmm

sys0p wrote:Honey is almost 100% sugar, so it's good for postworkout and early mornings. It's got about 50mg of potassium per 100g, too.

What he said. sys0p is now the guru, so please direct all training and diet questions his way. My job is done, I have trained my replacement and I can vanish now...

heh.

Seriously, though, honey is most simple sugars, so, like sys said, it is good for post workout and early mornings when your body is starved for calories. Avoid it like the plague before bedtime or later in the day when you are winding down if you want to stay lean.

Kracus wrote:I thought sugar was basicly bad carbs...

Depends...there are different categories of sugar (carbs are all polymers of sugars).

Uh oh, so it's bad carbs, ie the ones that are most likely to form fat tissue?

Just think of it this way - simple sugars, easily absorbed and thus good right before, during, or shortly after a workout.
But yes, they will be more readily stored as fat if you don't burn them...

shaft wrote:bee puke.... mmmmm

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But fruits, like apples and grapefruits have complex sugars, right?

tnf wrote:

sys0p wrote:Honey is almost 100% sugar, so it's good for postworkout and early mornings. It's got about 50mg of potassium per 100g, too.

What he said. sys0p is now the guru, so please direct all training and diet questions his way. My job is done, I have trained my replacement and I can vanish now...

heh.

Seriously, though, honey is most simple sugars, so, like sys said, it is good for post workout and early mornings when your body is starved for calories. Avoid it like the plague before bedtime or later in the day when you are winding down if you want to stay lean.

lol, sorry man, I don't mean to answer questions directed at you, it's hard to shut up when you know the answer

sys0p wrote:

tnf wrote:

sys0p wrote:Honey is almost 100% sugar, so it's good for postworkout and early mornings. It's got about 50mg of potassium per 100g, too.

What he said. sys0p is now the guru, so please direct all training and diet questions his way. My job is done, I have trained my replacement and I can vanish now...

heh.

Seriously, though, honey is most simple sugars, so, like sys said, it is good for post workout and early mornings when your body is starved for calories. Avoid it like the plague before bedtime or later in the day when you are winding down if you want to stay lean.

lol, sorry man, I don't mean to answer questions directed at you, it's hard to shut up when you know the answer

No man, I was completely joking. Not pissed at all...no need to apologize. I was serious too, you've probably all but surpassed me in what there is to know about this stuff.

Don't worry about it, and always feel free to drop the answer if you know it.

ToxicBug wrote:But fruits, like apples and grapefruits have complex sugars, right?

Apples have a lot of fructose...a simple sugar.

You give me too much credit, but thanks for the compliment :)

Don't run from all simple sugars..just time them during the day. Eat your fruits, etc., in the mornings, or before or after workouts...

Shift your caloric intake to favor protein as the day goes on...

sys0p wrote:

tnf wrote:

sys0p wrote:Honey is almost 100% sugar, so it's good for postworkout and early mornings. It's got about 50mg of potassium per 100g, too.

What he said. sys0p is now the guru, so please direct all training and diet questions his way. My job is done, I have trained my replacement and I can vanish now...

heh.

Seriously, though, honey is most simple sugars, so, like sys said, it is good for post workout and early mornings when your body is starved for calories. Avoid it like the plague before bedtime or later in the day when you are winding down if you want to stay lean.

lol, sorry man, I don't mean to answer questions directed at you, it's hard to shut up when you know the answer

Must be why you don't post much.

So a grapefruit in the morning and a protein shake in the evening is a good choice?

Yup. Now, there are different types of protein shakes. I wouldn't recommend whey protein at night...it is absorbed quickly and better for post-workout drinks...

But something is better than nothing in terms of protein, so if whey is what you've got, go for it.

There are others that are more slowly assimilated, keeping you in a positive nitrogen balance state longer at night, or so they say....

Well I drink a protein shake after my workout, one scoop of Optimum Nutrition 100% whey protein mixed with 250ml of milk. I work out after 9pm because the gym is way too crowded before that time, so I come back around 10-10:30. But should I drink this every night, not only after working out?

I'd throw some carbs into that post-workout shake..simple sugars...you can find carb powders at the health food stores also...

And, as for when you should drink it, it really depends on your overall diet, training regime, and goals.

I'd drink it every night, though, because if you are attempting to put on muscle mass, you don't want your body to be starved for protein at night while you sleep.

just shut it toxic and have some more timbits

I have a low-carb diet since I want to lose weight, but gain muscle instead.