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I beleive the nature of evil is the lack of empathy. That is, every other feeling, greed, anger, vengeance is secondary to the lack of empathy towards other people.

woah....thats deep.

duh

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get to work.

Have you been smoking again Kracus?

the nature of evil is ppl taking advantage of apathy...any questions?

And what if you are a masochist? That would change how you empathized with people...

fuck u...

Kracus wrote:I beleive the nature of evil is the lack of empathy. That is, every other feeling, greed, anger, vengeance is secondary to the lack of empathy towards other people.

nah, empathy is what makes evil fun.

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tnf wrote:And what if you are a masochist? That would change how you empathized with people...

Well it depends on the situation. A Masochist that sodomizes a victim that does not wish to be sodomized does not emphasize with his victim. He does it to fulfill somekind of desire ignoring those of his victims. Therfore the masochist is devoid of empathy for his victim.

evil doesn't exist, it's all in the mind.

deepness is all mine baby

So you're the guy that passionately argues against the existence of deities, yet still beleives in the notion of evil?

Right, yeah. That's not in any way fucking stupid.

Foo wrote:So you're the guy that passionately argues against the existence of deities, yet still beleives in the notion of evil?

Right, yeah. That's not in any way fucking stupid.

Ok retard... I want clarification on this one. Are you insinuating that religion is the basis of evil, IE: you need to beleive in religions to have morals? Cause if it is it's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard you say.

there is no evil without religion no0b...

Kracus wrote:

Foo wrote:So you're the guy that passionately argues against the existence of deities, yet still beleives in the notion of evil?

Right, yeah. That's not in any way fucking stupid.

Ok retard... I want clarification on this one. Are you insinuating that religion is the basis of evil, IE: you need to beleive in religions to have morals? Cause if it is it's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard you say.

What makes one morality superior to another, then? Lack of empathy is what I am guessing you will say, but if you actually view other races and/or religions as inherently inferior or 'less human' than people won't have empathy for them anyhow.

I am thinking that you are basically trying to state that the crux of a 'good' morality is simply empathy, but people can be empathetic and still do horrible things.

Kracus wrote:

Foo wrote:So you're the guy that passionately argues against the existence of deities, yet still beleives in the notion of evil?

Right, yeah. That's not in any way fucking stupid.

Ok retard... I want clarification on this one. Are you insinuating that religion is the basis of evil, IE: you need to beleive in religions to have morals? Cause if it is it's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard you say.

You should read C.S. Lewis's "Mere Christianity" - not because I think you should take up the religion, but because he makes an interesting argument about the whole "what makes one morality 'better' than another" issue. Its covered in the first few chapters, and is a very short read.

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Kracus wrote:

Foo wrote:So you're the guy that passionately argues against the existence of deities, yet still beleives in the notion of evil?

Right, yeah. That's not in any way fucking stupid.

Ok retard... I want clarification on this one. Are you insinuating that religion is the basis of evil, IE: you need to beleive in religions to have morals? Cause if it is it's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard you say.

What makes one morality superior to another, then? Lack of empathy is what I am guessing you will say, but if you actually view other races and/or religions as inherently inferior or 'less human' than people won't have empathy for them anyhow.

I am thinking that you are basically trying to state that the crux of a 'good' morality is simply empathy, but people can be empathetic and still do horrible things.

Not on purpose, otherwise they aren't emphatic. I can see your reasoning from perhaps a mercy killing but even then it still wouldn't apply. See in a mercy killing the killer is so empathetic to the victims plea, which is of course that they WISH to die, that they kill them. Hardly a crime in my honest opinion except for those too slow to be able to reason such a situation through. Like for someone that isn't terminaly ill, or braindead. Obviously no matter how much they want to die they have a chance at a better life should you leave them alive.

But that wasn't my original point. My original point was that a lack of empathy is the basis of all that is evil. Every evil act that is ever commited is because that person is not empathetic to the others feelings. Murder in self defense is not a crime for example.

Kracus wrote: Not on purpose, otherwise they aren't emphatic. I can see your reasoning from perhaps a mercy killing but even then it still wouldn't apply. See in a mercy killing the killer is so empathetic to the victims plea, which is of course that they WISH to die, that they kill them. Hardly a crime in my honest opinion except for those too slow to be able to reason such a situation through. Like for someone that isn't terminaly ill, or braindead. Obviously no matter how much they want to die they have a chance at a better life should you leave them alive.

But that wasn't my original point. My original point was that a lack of empathy is the basis of all that is evil. Every evil act that is ever commited is because that person is not empathetic to the others feelings. Murder in self defense is not a crime for example.

you're oversimplifying(spelling?!) a bit too much ey, ruling off everything as an empathy issue just doesn't cut it.

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Of course it's not all black and white, but the "nature" of evil is still the lack of empathy. It's the seed so to speak. From there, several other evils arise but yes, I beleive that a lack of empathy is the root of evil.

That's not to say people are absolved of guilt because they simply do not feel empathetic towards other people but that trait is what caused them to do evil deeds to begin with.

Everyone is evil and people enjoy watching others suffer. (IE. Someone gets a flat tire on the highway, everyone rubber necks to see that sucker change his tire, and they get a kick out of it)