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Mountain biking

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:29 pm
by blowsy
I'm new to mountain biking and have about £500 ($950 USD) to spend on a bike.

I've been looking at the Carrera Fury and the Giant XTC SX.

Can anyone offer any guidance?

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Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:32 pm
by plained
i like the ones with the bar low like a girls bike

plus i like the bars and seat positions like a bmx as well

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:58 pm
by Foo
You're welcome to buy my 1.2-grand downhill bike for 500 quid. Otherwise I'll never get around to selling it.

Seriously though if you're looking at cross country riding with some road use, the Giant is a good buy. Focus on buying something with a good quality frame and low-end components (gears, pedals, headset) because those can all be easily upgraded as your budget allows.

And if you do decide to go the downhill route, hit me up. This damned bike has sat here doing nothing for... must be 2 years.

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:02 pm
by Doombrain
pics, i might buy

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:11 pm
by Turing
For you, it's 700.

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:14 pm
by Doombrain
of your joke money, deal.

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:15 pm
by Foo
Image

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:16 pm
by Foo
The only 2 things that gay me out about the bike is its weight and the decals saying 'pro' and 'art' all over it, which is lame as hell.. specialized have never been very good with the decals.... Other than that it's fucking nails.

Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:18 pm
by Doombrain
looks like some kind of S&M bike

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:25 pm
by plained
is that bike frame aluminum foo?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:26 pm
by Doombrain
no, for £1.2g it's made of fucking steel, you moron.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:29 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
With the money you have to spend you can't go wrong looking at a Cannondale bike.

They are a sweet ride, light as a feather for bunny hopping and can take a beating off-road.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:32 pm
by plained
Doombrain wrote:no, for £1.2g it's made of fucking steel, you moron.
ok spacked one ur gibberish is unclear to me.

is it aluminum?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:55 pm
by Doombrain
plained wrote:
Doombrain wrote:no, for £1.2g it's made of fucking steel, you moron.
ok spacked one ur gibberish is unclear to me.

is it aluminum?
:olo:

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:59 pm
by blowsy
Foo wrote:You're welcome to buy my 1.2-grand downhill bike for 500 quid. Otherwise I'll never get around to selling it.

Seriously though if you're looking at cross country riding with some road use, the Giant is a good buy. Focus on buying something with a good quality frame and low-end components (gears, pedals, headset) because those can all be easily upgraded as your budget allows.

And if you do decide to go the downhill route, hit me up. This damned bike has sat here doing nothing for... must be 2 years.
Nice looking bike (if not a little too bl!ng) but not really in the same category of what I'm looking for. As a starter I need something more fit for general purpose - no doubt after fucking about on the bike for a few months I will get an idea of which direction I like to go long-term.

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:08 pm
by Foo
blowsy wrote:Nice looking bike (if not a little too bl!ng) but not really in the same category of what I'm looking for. As a starter I need something more fit for general purpose - no doubt after fucking about on the bike for a few months I will get an idea of which direction I like to go long-term.
Yup, this is a good approach to be taking sir.

But I'm serious about the frame thing.. pick a decent frame with basic components and you can customise it incrementally as you need without needing to splurge on a large amount of new kit at once.

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:33 am
by plained
so its 6061 i guess urs saying with the ignore :shrug:

what makes it heavy all them shocks and shit?


i allways feel i lose so much pedal energy to them shocks whenever i tried them.

i'll stick to bmx sinse i dont ride to get anywheres anyways

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:59 am
by Kracis
I suggest not getting a Y frame like that if you're competitive in any way as the flex those produce in the frame is often a lot and makes the bike unstable in certain conditions and also more difficult to accellerate as a lot of energy get's lost in the frame when it's flexing.

However if it's just for fun, that looks like a fun ride.

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:17 am
by AmIdYfReAk
a standard Y frome from back in the Garry Fisher days yes, i would agree with you.. that was recorded byt he riders on downhill runs the frame qould Torque under the load..

that is why they run the Lower runner down the Y to give it a little more stregth.

i HIGHLY Doubt that anyone here could torque the frame enough to notice that ( unless they go down a +60º Hill just to prove me wrong )

Somthign that i dont understand thus far though, is i see alot of local kids driving the Rock hoping bikes. For those that dont know its a Hardtail Frame with a seatpost that is 1/2 of the usual hight, one Crank and ~7 year gears Sporting 7+ inch Tripple Tree'd forks up front.

Why would you take that bike over the rest? they are rather Compersom, and the lack of gears would make it a chore to ride in the city.

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:59 am
by blowsy
Foo wrote: Yup, this is a good approach to be taking sir.

But I'm serious about the frame thing.. pick a decent frame with basic components and you can customise it incrementally as you need without needing to splurge on a large amount of new kit at once.
In that case, from what I've read I should be going for the Giant as it has a better frame whereas the Carrera has better forks/brakes.

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 11:54 am
by diego
:olo: blowme :olo:

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Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:03 pm
by Eddie
i wouldnt know shit for a mtb but if you said bmx thats a diff story. i've been bmxing for almost 5 yrs now :icon25:

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 7:31 pm
by Kracis
AmIdYfReAk wrote:a standard Y frome from back in the Garry Fisher days yes, i would agree with you.. that was recorded byt he riders on downhill runs the frame qould Torque under the load..

that is why they run the Lower runner down the Y to give it a little more stregth.

i HIGHLY Doubt that anyone here could torque the frame enough to notice that ( unless they go down a +60º Hill just to prove me wrong )

Somthign that i dont understand thus far though, is i see alot of local kids driving the Rock hoping bikes. For those that dont know its a Hardtail Frame with a seatpost that is 1/2 of the usual hight, one Crank and ~7 year gears Sporting 7+ inch Tripple Tree'd forks up front.

Why would you take that bike over the rest? they are rather Compersom, and the lack of gears would make it a chore to ride in the city.
Some people just buy the bike cause they think it looks cool. *shurgs* btw flex on the frame I was talking about was goin uphill, not downhill. Each pedal stroke causes the flex, especialy in carbon fiber bikes.

You're right though, this was from a long time ago when I used to race, back when Gary Fisher bikes were pretty popular. Either way, I have a Kona Cindercone that I ride around at the moment, not the most spectacular bike but a good value for the price. Love disk breaks.