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Says the corporation whose sole purpose is to make money off those viruses. Seems like someone has been having poor sales in their OS X dept...

its only the beginning ( i havent read the article )

just wait till firefox becomes more popular, its gonna have hax just like IE does..

I hate it when people use that logic. Just because a product is more popular, doesn't make it automatically buggier and open to more exploits. It doesn't matter if FF were the most used browser ever, the way it handles pretty much everything makes it more secure than IE.

SoM wrote:its only the beginning ( i havent read the article )

just wait till firefox becomes more popular, its gonna have hax just like IE does..

Heh. Well said.

4g3nt_Smith wrote:I hate it when people use that logic. Just because a product is more popular, doesn't make it automatically buggier and open to more exploits. It doesn't matter if FF were the most used browser ever, the way it handles pretty much everything makes it more secure than IE.

And just because its free and open source doesn't make it secure or any less able to be exploited. Its more secure than a default IE install but hardly bulletproof. Thats only going to become more obvious as it's market share grows and hackers take more of an interest in ripping into it's code.

Hackers should get the death penalty.

I never said that. Way to go not reading my post. I said that the use of the "Its only hacked because its popular" is stupid. I also detect a hint of your dislike towards open-source in your "rip into the code." Just because a program's source is openly seen and downloaded doesn't make that code more vunerable to attack.

hackers dont care if its more useable or some shit...

hackers only do one thing, if a program gets very popular, (IE) lots more exploits will come for it.. just wait n see

why would a hacker fuck with a program thats on a scale of 1-10 ( 1 users ) when a hackers can fuck up users on a scale from 10-10...

Kaziganthe wrote:I've been getting more and more popups with ff, but its still only like 5/mo :/

Still getting zero here. stop going to those gay porn sites.

4g3nt_Smith wrote:

Kaziganthe wrote:I've been getting more and more popups with ff, but its still only like 5/mo :/

Still getting zero here. stop going to those gay porn sites.

i hate when people use that logic

I remember when my stepfather used to get popups he'd read every one of them then click on them. I couldn't quite get the concept into his head that they were like tv comercials...

SoM wrote:

4g3nt_Smith wrote:

Kaziganthe wrote:I've been getting more and more popups with ff, but its still only like 5/mo :/

Still getting zero here. stop going to those gay porn sites.

i hate when people use that logic

Then stop going to gay porn sites.

SoM wrote:

4g3nt_Smith wrote:

Kaziganthe wrote:I've been getting more and more popups with ff, but its still only like 5/mo :/

Still getting zero here. stop going to those gay porn sites.

i hate when people use that logic

Its called a joke you sad, defensive little man.

4g3nt_Smith wrote:I never said that. Way to go not reading my post. I said that the use of the "Its only hacked because its popular" is stupid. I also detect a hint of your dislike towards open-source in your "rip into the code." Just because a program's source is openly seen and downloaded doesn't make that code more vunerable to attack.

I didn't say that it did but because an app is open source doesn't make it any less vulnerable to exploits. People currently "rip into" IEs code and exploit it because its by far the biggest browser. As FF's market share grows it will experience the same problems.

how can you rip into IE's code when it's not known? at least with firefox the code can(and prolly has)be ripped into and checked out by anyone. yet it has only had how many critical flaws?

closed source leads to illusions of security and sloppy programming that can be reverse engineered easily.

m$ boy.


i don't hate ms, i actually kinda like em but, you can't sit there and say they are not guilty of some pretty sloppy code.

considering that 90% of ppl use IE, its not hard for hackers to find a way...

FF is already getting hacked, just wait till it becomes more popular , its gonna be same as IE..

shadd_. wrote:how can you rip into IE's code when it's not known? at least with firefox the code can(and prolly has)be ripped into and checked out by anyone. yet it has only had how many critical flaws?

closed source leads to illusions of security and sloppy programming that can be reverse engineered easily.

m$ boy.


i don't hate ms, i actually kinda like em but, you can't sit there and say they are not guilty of some pretty sloppy code.

How can it be done with MS' code? Reverse engineering....just like you said.

Closed source doesn't necessarily lead to sloppy code either although I'm not going to argue that MS didn't have sloppy code

They have, however, come a really long ways in just a few years.

I can't imagine firefox running into the same number of vulnerabilities as IE, even if firefox were to get 99% of the market. Firefox was built from the beginning to be secure; there will of course be exploits that come out every so often, but firefox was founded on a secure base and is not burdened by fundamentally unsafe features, such as activex.

linux/apache/php/perl is a very secure environment, even though it runs on the majority of servers out on the internet. the reason LAMP is secure is because it was built from the beginning to be secure, just like firefox.

i'll give m$ credit for how my system runs overall today.

rarely a glitch.

mjrpes wrote:I can't imagine firefox running into the same number of vulnerabilities as IE, even if firefox were to get 99% of the market. Firefox was built from the beginning to be secure; there will of course be exploits that come out every so often, but firefox was founded on a secure base and is not burdened by fundamentally unsafe features, such as activex.

linux/apache/php/perl is a very secure environment, even though it runs on the majority of servers out on the internet. the reason LAMP is secure is because it was built from the beginning to be secure, just like firefox.

Vulns are already on the rise for it. Just wait and see what happens as the market share grows...

I will. We should start a betting pool.

mjrpes wrote:I will. We should start a betting pool.

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IMO, the guys that like to exploit our favorite browsers probably have more respect for FF because it's open source. most of those same guys are MS haters anyway, so of course IE is going to always have more security problems than FF.