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Ok...so I don't know enough about the topics I'm about to postulate in so I'll just go ahead and - after smoking two bowls - come up with some stupid ideas that obviously haven't been thought out.

So here goes....

M-Theory says that perhaps a "closed-loop" string called a graviton might have the possibility of crossing branes and "leaking" between parallel universes....unlike the "openended loop" of the other strings which binds both ends of their energy to our brane, keeping the matter in our universe. M-Theory also says that for it to be accurate, there must be 11 dimensions...with six or more being curled up within themselves.

There is also debate on the nature of dark matter and how it can be a candidate for explaining alot of the gravitational forces from matter that doesn't seem to be visible in any spectrum. Basically, they say that of the detectable matter (stars, planets, seza's head, DrUM's nose, etc) there is only about 10% of the required mass to keep the galaxies from flying apart...yet they don't. Thus the dark matter theory.

So what if it's simpler than that? What if the other required 90% of the mass to keep our galaxy together was curled up within these extra dimensions that M-Theory says must be there? All that mass and energy forever unmeasurable by our 3 dimensional selves?

Here's another brain fart I had between packing bowls:

What if black holes are aided - if not entirely composed of - dark matter "clusters"? Since dark matter - it would seem - has a high mass value, this could aid the "gravity well" that is generated by black holes.

Or...since gravity can possibly leak between branes....perhaps black holes are nothing more than super-massive objects within another brane that leaked so much gravitational energy between it's brane and ours that they affect our dimenional universe?

*packs another bowl*

far too possible for this to be kracus material.

nice try cunt

You have read too much about what you are speaking for this to be a Kracus thread.

I think our limitation is thinking existance is based off of matter.

Remove matter from the equation, and interdimensional interactions become possible and probable.

It is possible for these dimensions to exists solely as energy, or types of.

Here is a quote from my nerd friend after reading my post:

well, actually i still believe that it would be sufficient to add another force with logarithmical falloff over a large distance, but with an extremly LOW force (so its practically impossoble to measure them using only 1 atom..... but billions and billions of atoms will "sum up" their tiny forces.... so tiny*1e100 is still a lot

Now is a good time to ask...

How do you guys feel about the current theory on gravity?

I remember reading up on a bloke who had a very convincing arguement that gravity was a pushing force, not a pulling force.

He had of course several experiments using magnets to show how the stars could be suspended and orbitted around each other via the repulsive forces of teh magnetics. Interesting stuff.

It was a theory with some flaws, but yet it still posed many questions that science had yet to answer (reasonably).

The whole concept of multiple universes doesn't sit well with me, at least not in the way they are curently explained. Perhaps another universe outside our own would make sense but it'd be outside the boundaries of our known universe meaning it wouldn't affect anything in ours and anything "leaking" in would have to be from the edges of our universe.

And fuck you guys.

Cool Blue wrote:Now is a good time to ask...

How do you guys feel about the current theory on gravity?

I remember reading up on a bloke who had a very convincing arguement that gravity was a pushing force, not a pulling force.

He had of course several experiments using magnets to show how the stars could be suspended and orbitted around each other via the repulsive forces of teh magnetics. Interesting stuff.

It was a theory with some flaws, but yet it still posed many questions that science had yet to answer (reasonably).

Hey I said that!!!

Kracus wrote:The whole concept of multiple universes doesn't sit well with me, at least not in the way they are curently explained. Perhaps another universe outside our own would make sense but it'd be outside the boundaries of our known universe meaning it wouldn't affect anything in ours and anything "leaking" in would have to be from the edges of our universe.

And fuck you guys.

Define boundaries.


You're arguement is like saying when you turn out the lights, the universe ceases to exist.

The dimensions to which GFY refers (I believe), exist in comlete unison around us, not at the edges of known universe.

http://www.keelynet.com/gravity/wright1.htm

Personally, I think this says something HUGE..

A college science/physics class after seeing a demonstration of Wright's Push-Gravity models wrote; "The most telling argument Wright has is that while he has models of his Push-Theory, there are NO such models for the traditional Pull-theory."

Shouldn't scientists by now have been able to create conclusive models to prove their pull theory correct?

Cool Blue wrote:
You're arguement is like saying when you turn out the lights, the universe ceases to exist.

You have no idea how accurate you are.

Cool Blue wrote:
The dimensions to which GFY refers (I believe), exist in comlete unison around us, not at the edges of known universe.

Correct.

not so much "around" as "throughout"

W3rd.

Cool Blue wrote:I think our limitation is thinking existance is based off of matter.

Remove matter from the equation, and interdimensional interactions become possible and probable.

It is possible for these dimensions to exists solely as energy, or types of.

*smokes bowl while pondering*

Cool Blue wrote:

Kracus wrote:The whole concept of multiple universes doesn't sit well with me, at least not in the way they are curently explained. Perhaps another universe outside our own would make sense but it'd be outside the boundaries of our known universe meaning it wouldn't affect anything in ours and anything "leaking" in would have to be from the edges of our universe.

And fuck you guys.

Define boundaries.


You're arguement is like saying when you turn out the lights, the universe ceases to exist.

The dimensions to which GFY refers (I believe), exist in comlete unison around us, not at the edges of known universe.

Like you said, edges of the universe. Boundaries, edge of universe, same thing.

I'm skeptical about the theory that another parallel universe is all around us. Cause if it is the case then there's no way we should be able to have access to this universe, or in aother words, nothing could possibly "leak" from that universe to ours, otherwise there would be some sort of physical proof that this has been occuring.

Look... seriously, let's just cut the shit and admit that we're clearly talking about the Force here.

Seriously though the dark matter theory isn't much different than my theory AND my theory would even account for the fact that the expanding universes speed to be increasing.