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uk def sec wants to legalise war crimes & aggression :do

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:11 pm
by seremtan
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4873856.stm
He warned legal grounds for mounting pre-emptive strikes or intervening to stop genocide were no longer adequate.

Mr Reid also called for a review of the Geneva Conventions, signed in 1949, governing the treatment of prisoners of war.
so, basically, he wants a post facto justification for the attack on iraq, the upcoming attack on iran, gitmo, abu ghraib, etc.
"We now have to cope with a deliberate regression towards barbaric terrorism by our opponents," he said.
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"The legal constraints upon us have to be set against an enemy that adheres no constraints whatsoever, but an enemy so swift to insist that we do in every particular, and that makes life very difficult for the forces of democracy."
so, when exactly did osama bin laden demand our scrupulous adherence to the geneva convention? i must have missed that.

however the true comedy in this ridiculous claim lies in the fact that 'our side' appears not to recognise any constraints, and acts with far greater destructiveness that 'their side' (100k+ killed in iraq vs 3000 on 9/11, for example). i don't see life being made difficult for the "forces of democracy" (or, translated from doublespeak, 'warmonger') - on the contrary: they appear to having it easy. no serious military opposition of any kind, plus a weak and nebulous political opposition at home

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:29 pm
by Ryoki
Lol the whole prisoner thing is such a political minefield.

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:45 pm
by R00k
seremtan wrote:so, when exactly did osama bin laden demand our scrupulous adherence to the geneva convention? i must have missed that.

however the true comedy in this ridiculous claim lies in the fact that 'our side' appears not to recognise any constraints, and acts with far greater destructiveness that 'their side' (100k+ killed in iraq vs 3000 on 9/11, for example). i don't see life being made difficult for the "forces of democracy" (or, translated from doublespeak, 'warmonger') - on the contrary: they appear to having it easy. no serious military opposition of any kind, plus a weak and nebulous political opposition at home
Oh I disagree -- the warmongs' movement is very hard on them, especially for the reason that they have not a soul in the world to blame it on aside from themselves.

I'd say in a situation where you've created a nearly worldwide war killing and maiming hundreds of thousands of mostly innocent people, and all based on a pack of your buddies' lies, cognitive dissonance doesn't even enter into it.

Sometimes I think I'd be much better off if I believed in a Hell where these unscrupulous assholes would spend eternity consumed by flames and other more painful forms of divine retribution.
I just hope the people who are really suffering by them do believe in such a place.