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how come audio cables have a white fibre in them?

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:16 pm
by phantasmagoria
My rat just chewed through my headphones lead and i'm in the process of fixing them, the lead is split into two, one for left and one for right...

but inside each of these are two white fibres, contained within different coloured copper strands. What is this stuff for, apart from to make my repair job infuriating by getting in the way of the soldering iron?

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:17 pm
by Dr_Watson
its sheilding.

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:19 pm
by phantasmagoria
but it seems to be contained within the copper wires?

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:19 pm
by Guest
Why would anyone want a rat?

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:19 pm
by phantasmagoria
because when they're not chewing cables, they're extremely entertaining pets

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:28 pm
by teriba
It could be a ground.

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:34 pm
by Nightshade
I've seen cable made like that before, usually with weird flat conductor wire. The conductors are wrapped around the fiber, and it's basically just thread. That type of construction is either cheap or has some desirable frequency characteristics.
Either way, it's annoying as shit to repair.

Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:45 pm
by phantasmagoria
They're Sennheiser headphones (all be it budget) and it seems if anything like extra effort to put this stupid fibre stuff in, so I doubt it's an expense saver.

I really can't see the point in having it, it doesn't seem like a conductor, and it's certainly not insulating anything. I just wondered what the point in it was, I doubt they'd go to all the extra effort to put a fibre in if they didn't need to and could just use a standard multi-core wire. Pain in the ass.

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:12 am
by jmt
It strengthens the cable (prevents the cable from tearing from tension).

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:15 am
by SOAPboy
jmt wrote:It strengthens the cable (prevents the cable from tearing from tension).
yup

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:18 am
by phantasmagoria
ahh ok. Thanks :)

Seems obvious in retrospect.

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:28 am
by Giraffe }{unter
my understandiung of the white fiber is to keep the cable from streaching and prevents the pairs or sets of wires from getting longer than each other.

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 12:54 am
by losCHUNK
Dr_Watson wrote:its sheilding.
Image

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:02 am
by obsidian
Depends. I've seen some that have a fiber that is actually the conductor, wrapped in shiny sheilding. It's a super skinny wire that looks really fragile. I have those in my headphones and it took me forever to soder the fibers back on.

Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:07 am
by Foo
If you simply embed lengths of wire through a plastic moulding, then even small tugs on the wire will seperate the wire connections inside the mould.

The fiber crap is there, IIRC, to cushion and protect the wire. It's not related to electrostatic shielding.