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to the morons who thinks guns should be banned...

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:28 pm
by Freakaloin

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:29 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
in before close

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:33 pm
by Dark Metal
I'll allow this, for now.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:34 pm
by Freakaloin
dark metal fucks the shit out of little boys.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:35 pm
by Ryoki
Lol, figures on crime rates in the UK by an American economist?

Yeah, that's gonna be reliable information, lol.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:36 pm
by Freakaloin
seems like in most places they ban guns this happens...makes sense...

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:44 pm
by blood.angel
So UK gundeaths are what, 100 to 150 a year.
It takes 2 days in the US to reach that.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:44 pm
by Dark Metal
Tag teamed.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:53 pm
by 4days
"violent crime has risen 69% since 1996, with robbery rising 45 percent and murders rising 54 percent."

69% since 1996

fuck off has it.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:19 pm
by Geebs
I work in a rough part of London, and we almost never see shootings. Although that's probably because they spent all their money on crack and can't afford guns...

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:20 pm
by Freakaloin
violent crime is at a 50 year low in america..partly becuz 80% of the population is in prison...

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:25 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
On the other hand...


Terror Suspects Buying Firearms, Report Finds
By ERIC LICHTBLAU

Published: March 8, 2005

WASHINGTON, March 7 - Dozens of terror suspects on federal watch lists were allowed to buy firearms legally in the United States last year, according to a Congressional investigation that points up major vulnerabilities in federal gun laws.

People suspected of being members of a terrorist group are not automatically barred from legally buying a gun, and the investigation, conducted by the Government Accountability Office, indicated that people with clear links to terrorist groups had regularly taken advantage of this gap.

Since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, law enforcement officials and gun control groups have voiced increasing concern about the prospect of a terrorist walking into a gun shop, legally buying an assault rifle or other type of weapon and using it in an attack.

The G.A.O. study offers the first full-scale examination of the possible dangers posed by gaps in the law, Congressional officials said, and it concludes that the Federal Bureau of Investigation "could better manage" its gun-buying records in matching them against lists of suspected terrorists.

F.B.I. officials maintain that they are hamstrung by laws and policies restricting the use of gun-buying records because of concerns over the privacy rights of gun owners.

At least 44 times from February 2004 to June, people whom the F.B.I. regards as known or suspected members of terrorist groups sought permission to buy or carry a gun, the investigation found.

In all but nine cases, the F.B.I. or state authorities who handled the requests allowed the applications to proceed because a check of the would-be buyer found no automatic disqualification like being a felon, an illegal immigrant or someone deemed "mentally defective," the report found.

In the four months after the formal study ended, the authorities received an additional 14 gun applications from terror suspects, and all but 2 of those were cleared to proceed, the investigation found. In all, officials approved 47 of 58 gun applications from terror suspects over a nine-month period last year, it found.

The gun buyers came up as positive matches on a classified internal F.B.I. watch list that includes thousands of terrorist suspects, many of whom are being monitored, trailed or sought for questioning as part of terrorism investigations into Islamic-based, militia-style and other groups, official said. G.A.O. investigators were not given access to the identities of the gun buyers because of those investigations.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/08/natio ... 34&ei=5070

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:40 pm
by LOL INTERNET
FREAKALOIN, I DON'T WANT U TO GET BANNED, I THINK YOU'RE PRETTY COOL, MISTER

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:53 pm
by Nightshade
blood.angel wrote:So UK gundeaths are what, 100 to 150 a year.
It takes 2 days in the US to reach that.
Fucking bullshit.
We can hit that in less than 12 hours.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:33 pm
by reefsurfer
Nightshade wrote:
blood.angel wrote:So UK gundeaths are what, 100 to 150 a year.
It takes 2 days in the US to reach that.
Fucking bullshit.
We can hit that in less than 12 hours.
Nothing to be proud of... :shrug:

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:50 pm
by Grudge
Does a Gun in the Home Make You Safer?

No. Despite claims by the National Rifle Association (NRA) that you need a gun in your home to protect yourself and your family, public health research demonstrates that the person most likely to shoot you or a family member with a gun already has the keys to your house. Simply put: guns kept in the home for self-protection are more often used to kill somebody you know than to kill in self-defense; 22 times more likely, according to a 1998 study by the Journal of Trauma.[1] More kids, teenagers and adult family members are dying from firearms in their own home than criminal intruders. When someone is home, a gun is used for protection in fewer than two percent of home invasion crimes.[2] You may be surprised to know that, in 1999, according to the FBI's Uniform Crime Report, there were only 154 justifiable homicides committed by private citizens with a firearm compared with a total of 8,259 firearm murders in the United States.
http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/issues/?page=home#1