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Teacher forces student to stand during national anthem

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:39 pm
by Fender
Or at least he tries to. Student refuses and teacher pulls out chair from underneath student. All caught on film by another student.

Vid and complaint:
http://nyc.indymedia.org/newswire/displ ... /index.php

Some discussion:
http://www.reason.com/hitandrun/2005/03 ... stic.shtml

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:41 pm
by Freakaloin
2 week old news...but the teacher was right...the students were being cocksuckers...had nothing to do with the anthem...

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:42 pm
by Fender
Teach might be a nationalistic asshole, but the kids are fucking punks, too.
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/articl ... 070/NEWS02

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:46 pm
by SplishSplash
One thing doesn't have to do anything with the other.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:48 pm
by Massive Quasars
The kids may have been punks, but they should be sent out of class or to the principal's office rather than forced to stand and sing the national anthem.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:51 pm
by Ryoki
....what's the national anthem doing in schools anyway?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:55 pm
by Massive Quasars
Who knows. In Canada students are encouraged to sing their national anthem at assembly, but not daily in class. I think it's silly either way.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:55 pm
by SplishSplash
Well, how else would you indoctrinate them?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:59 pm
by Freakaloin
its not about the anthem...its about them disrepecting and trying to make the teacher go ballistic...they were agitating him...i would have made them read neocon speeches in front of the class...

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:12 pm
by Massive Quasars
So the kids may have treated him badly. So what? He should respond with warnings and if they continue, they get the boot out of class or sent to the principal's office or have their parents notified, etc. You don't pull out a chair from under a student.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:13 pm
by Massive Quasars
Fender, are you a regular reader of Reason online?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:13 pm
by mik0rs
The teacher's a fucking moron, Jesus Christ, he must stand up at home for the national anthem too, fucking lunatic.

The kids seemed like pricks too but surely it's their right not to stand up if they don't want to.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:18 pm
by Freakaloin
obviuos a bunch of child minds round here...

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:19 pm
by Massive Quasars
it's that "obviuos"?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:20 pm
by Fender
Massive Quasars wrote:Fender, are you a regular reader of Reason online?
Not so much as I used to be. I do have a buddy @ work that sends me the better links and I read those. Once in a while I'll go there on my own, but not too often anymore.

My old sig for a while was this:
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:22 pm
by Massive Quasars
I enjoy reading Reason once in a while, as well.

For instance browsing now, I see this article:
http://www.reason.com/hitandrun/2005/03 ... tml#008709

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:47 pm
by Strangler
how could the teacher force them?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:55 pm
by rep
Future stroke victim.

Every American has a liberty to do whatever they please as long as it is within the law. You can do everything short of burning a flag, if you so desire to.

Of course, present dissent should not punish the real Americans of generations past. Just because you hate the Bush regime doesn't mean you shouldn't be patriotic.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:56 pm
by Fender
I do believe I can still burn the flag, if I so choose. That constitutional amendment didn't pass, IIRC.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:58 pm
by Strangler
why cant you burn a flag? How is that against the constitution?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:59 pm
by Fender
There was an attempt to ammend the constitution so that burning the flag would be illegal. It failed to pass, I believe.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:01 pm
by Suave
The US national anthem sounds so whiney.

NEE NEE NEE, NEE NEE, NEEEEEEEEEE... NEE NEE NEE, NEE NEE, NEEEEEEEE... Gets on my tits almost as much as the French anthem.


P.S. Those kids were just that, kids. 'Childish cunts', though something I would have done at their age (wind a teacher up).

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:06 pm
by rep
Interesting point, Fender. I wonder if my believing flag burning to be illegal is a subconscious esult of the spin machine?

I'll have to research it, although burning a flag is counter productive, unless it's a flag purchased edit: stolen from Wal-Mart, which are for the majority made in China. Amazing, isn't it?

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:07 pm
by 4days
that guy didn't have control of the classroom.

the kids look like a bunch of spoilt little assholes (but i'm over 25, so i'm bound to think that).

spoilt or not, if you don't have the ability to control a group of kids without resorting to shouting, threats and minor physical attacks then maybe you shouldn't be teaching.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:26 pm
by Freakaloin
Strangler wrote:how could the teacher force them?
cuz hes the teacher...don't like his rules ur out of there...well thats the way it is around here and anyone who thinks differently is either a kid or doesn't have kids...