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so this is how depressing this country has gotten.
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:48 am
by Dr_Watson
sad...
"FOCUS: HEALTH DEPARTMENT
Schools, clinics squeezed by cuts
Elimination of nurses will leave Buffalo students without medical services... "
http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20 ... 023826.asp
this is all because of the cuts and shit state of medicare... war is hell on the poor.
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:58 am
by lars63
I agree its sad I just don't understand why people can't see what they are doing when they keep refusing levies and taxes for our schools.
Look on the birght side Mr. Bush probably has a wonderful plan in the works. You know like the one he has worked up for our retirement fund.
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:23 am
by Dr_Watson
yep... "no child left behind ... if you can afford private school"
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:28 am
by Canidae
Americans seem to prefer to spend more money on Chinese electronics and cheap Wal mart products and buy Arab oil rather than spend it on their own health so I don't think they'll care.
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:38 am
by Dr_Watson
i just think its amazing that the government is run by pro-life religious crazies that are so into saving unborn children but apparently once you're out of the womb and in elementary school you're fucked... until you're 18, then you can go kill arabs.
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:58 am
by Grudge
lol, sounds like that about sums it up
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:02 am
by Canidae
But then you go to the Arab country and get your ass kicked because they are run by religious crazies who actually teach you to hate and kill Americans as part of the curriculum.
LOL you're fucked no matter what.
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:23 am
by MKJ
"Let them eat war
That's how to ration the poor"
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:31 pm
by redfella
Yea, 1200 bucks back for taxes really sucks.
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:31 pm
by R00k
redfella wrote:Yea, 1200 bucks back for taxes really sucks.
Savor that extra $300 you got this year. As a matter of fact, frame it and hang it on your wall. That way 5 years from now you can remember how happy you were to get it, when we're in a huge recession and it's worth enough to buy you a couple of meals.
And you can remember it when you're still working at 75 to pay for your medical expenses, wondering what happened to retiring at 60.
Savor that $300. It was worth it. :icon14:
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:35 pm
by PhoeniX
It's the exact opposite here; we need more nurses and doctors.
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:42 pm
by RiffRaff
Looks like more of a local/state issue. Perhaps you should rail on your local and state governments for their ineffective way they run their government.
How can some communities make it work while others, such as your example, suck at it?
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:46 pm
by Fender
Bring on private schools! Close all public schools.

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:47 pm
by R00k
RiffRaff wrote:Looks like more of a local/state issue. Perhaps you should rail on your local and state governments for their ineffective way they run their government.
How can some communities make it work while others, such as your example, suck at it?
When you radically change the amount of money states get for certain programs and tell the states to deal with it, you are going to have problems when the state has already budgeted that money and counted on it to be there.
Maybe some states are doing better than others, but none of them are doing great. Most are having serious economic issues, and have been for the past 2 years. It may be their fault what programs they decide to cut to offset their deficits, but it's not their fault that they suddenly don't have the money they were counting on to be there.
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:50 pm
by R00k
Fender wrote:Bring on private schools! Close all public schools.

I used to think that was a good idea. Now it scares the hell out of me.
I think it would create an even bigger and more dramatic class division in the country. People not being able to afford primary school for their kids is not something I like the sound of.
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:03 pm
by Fender
The public school system is broken. Plain and simple. I'd like to say that poor people would benefit from privitatization because of charity, but I'm not so sure. Regardless, something needs to be done. Let's start by getting rid of teacher unions, or at least implement pay for performance instead of standard pay for every year of service.
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:31 pm
by redfella
R00k wrote:Savor that extra $300 you got this year. As a matter of fact, frame it and hang it on your wall. That way 5 years from now you can remember how happy you were to get it, when we're in a huge recession and it's worth enough to buy you a couple of meals.
Since when have Democrats worried/thought about the future?
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:45 pm
by Geebs
Fender wrote:The public school system is broken. Plain and simple. I'd like to say that poor people would benefit from privitatization because of charity, but I'm not so sure. Regardless, something needs to be done. Let's start by getting rid of teacher unions, or at least implement pay for performance instead of standard pay for every year of service.
Yeah, the management's fucked so let's blame the professionals

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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 5:45 pm
by Geebs
redfella wrote:R00k wrote:Savor that extra $300 you got this year. As a matter of fact, frame it and hang it on your wall. That way 5 years from now you can remember how happy you were to get it, when we're in a huge recession and it's worth enough to buy you a couple of meals.
Since when have Democrats worried/thought about the future?
Since Kyoto?
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:20 pm
by werldhed
redfella wrote:Since when have Democrats worried/thought about the future?
Probably when the "fiscally responsible" republicans reduced the money available for anyone who isnt' 1) a millionaire 2) involved with the military, 3) part of their constituency, or 4) flagrantly patriotic.
I guess the only good I can see coming from this is that when the jobless rate skyrockets again and the US markets take another plunge maybe, just
maybe Bush supporters will see that obnoxious tax cuts, poor spending, and bonerified wars actually aren't good for the economy.
But I doubt it. Back to the main issue, though, I'm surprised those nurses aren't in unions. Or are most school nurses not?
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Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:53 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
Geebs wrote:redfella wrote:
Since when have Democrats worried/thought about the future?
Since Kyoto?
Aw man...now you gone and made redfella run away.
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:17 pm
by Hannibal
Geebs wrote:
Yeah, the management's fucked so let's blame the professionals

Teachers (primary/secondary) are not trained or treated as professionals in the US, which is of course half the problem.
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:38 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
Regarding the topic title...this is how sad your country has become:
http://www.lex18.com/global/story.asp?s ... =Printable
lol
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:39 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
lol
Sister humpin is ok but don't write anything about a school.
Cause yer a turrerist.
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:52 pm
by Dr_Watson
"It didn't mention nobody who lives in Clark County, didn't mention (George Rogers Clark High School), didn't mention no principal or cops, nothing,"
said Poole. "Half the people at high school know me. They know I'm not that stupid, that crazy."
sounds like he's highly egimakated.
edit:... a funnier spin on this story is that its in kentucky.... when you drive into kentucky, you see their "welcome to kentucky! where education pays" sign. irony++ :icon26: