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The Vatican newspaper has published an article saying "intelligent design" is not science and that teaching it alongside evolutionary theory in school classrooms only creates confusion.

The article in Tuesday's editions of L'Osservatore Romano was the latest in a series of interventions by Vatican officials _ including the pope _ on the issue that has dominated headlines in the United States.

The author, Fiorenzo Facchini, a professor of evolutionary biology at the University of Bologna, laid out the scientific rationale for Darwin's theory of evolution, saying that in the scientific world, biological evolution "represents the interpretative key of the history of life on Earth."

He lamented that certain American "creationists" had brought the debate back to the "dogmatic" 1800s, and said their arguments weren't science but ideology.

"This isn't how science is done," he wrote. "If the model proposed by Darwin is deemed insufficient, one should look for another, but it's not correct from a methodological point of view to take oneself away from the scientific field pretending to do science."

Intelligent design "doesn't belong to science and the pretext that it be taught as a scientific theory alongside Darwin's explanation is unjustified," he wrote.

"It only creates confusion between the scientific and philosophical and religious planes."

Supporters of "intelligent design" hold that some features of the universe and living things are so complex they must have been designed by a higher intelligence. Critics say intelligent design is merely creationism _ a literal reading of the Bible's story of creation _ camouflaged in scientific language and say it does not belong in science curriculum.

Facchini said he recognized some Darwin proponents erroneously assume that evolution explains everything. "Better to recognize that the problem from the scientific point of view remains open," he said.

But he concluded: "In a vision that goes beyond the empirical horizon, we can say that we aren't men by chance or by necessity, and that the human experience has a sense and a direction signaled by a superior design."

The article echoed similar arguments by the Vatican's chief astronomer, the Rev. George Coyne, who said "intelligent design" wasn't science and had no place in school classrooms.

Pope Benedict XVI reaffirmed in off-the-cuff comments in November that the universe was made by an "intelligent project" and criticized those who in the name of science say its creation was without direction or order.

SplishSplash wrote:how is he a nazi pope seriously

Pooinyourmouth wrote: He was a Hitler Youth....

SplishSplash wrote:

Pooinyourmouth wrote: He was a Hitler Youth....

So was everyone else at the time, including my grandma (in the girls department obviously, Jungmädelbund or whatever the name was). She was trained to shoot Bazookas. Her three husbands all fought in the war (although on different sides) and my grandfather on the other side was in the Afrika Korps and in Russia when Africa was lost. None of them were Nazis.


Edit: Actually, forget all that, you're obviously just retarded.

SplishSplash wrote:how is he a nazi pope seriously

Pooinyourmouth wrote:No not everyone else was a Hitler Youth at the time. My gradparants got the fuck out of Germany before all the shit hit the fan.

ToxicBug wrote:Nazi were actually religious...

mik0rs wrote:Sort of. But not really. Not Christian anyway. Hence the use of the Swastica as an icon all ove the place, which was taken from some Tibetan mysticism.

4days wrote:

mik0rs wrote:Sort of. But not really. Not Christian anyway. Hence the use of the Swastica as an icon all ove the place, which was taken from some Tibetan mysticism.

this is where bush and his cronies are fucking up. you can say a lot of things against hitler, but you can't fault his knack for brand awareness. the war on terra needs a logo.

4days wrote:

mik0rs wrote:Sort of. But not really. Not Christian anyway. Hence the use of the Swastica as an icon all ove the place, which was taken from some Tibetan mysticism.

this is where bush and his cronies are fucking up. you can say a lot of things against hitler, but you can't fault his knack for brand awareness. the war on terra needs a logo.

Pooinyourmouth wrote:

SplishSplash wrote:

Pooinyourmouth wrote: He was a Hitler Youth....

So was everyone else at the time, including my grandma (in the girls department obviously, Jungmädelbund or whatever the name was). She was trained to shoot Bazookas. Her three husbands all fought in the war (although on different sides) and my grandfather on the other side was in the Afrika Korps and in Russia when Africa was lost. None of them were Nazis.


Edit: Actually, forget all that, you're obviously just retarded.

No not everyone else was a Hitler Youth at the time. My gradparants got the fuck out of Germany before all the shit hit the fan.

Aside from that... I was just commenting on why everyone else was calling him (the pope) a nazi. It wasn't my opinion, but you can take it out of context if is makes you feel any better. After all, you are the one who asked why he was being called a nazi by the other people posting.


Edit: Actually, forget all that, you obviously knew he was a Hitler Youth and just wanted to bait somebody into saying why, so you would have an excuse to spit out all that crap.

mik0rs wrote:

ToxicBug wrote:Nazi were actually religious...

Sort of. But not really. Not Christian anyway. Hence the use of the Swastica as an icon all ove the place, which was taken from some Tibetan mysticism.

Dave wrote:Nazi-era German families were reorganized in such a way that community took precedence over the nuclear family. Impressionable children were raised in an environment heavily under the influence of state propaganda. This isn't to suggest that mom and dad didn't matter in Nazi Germany, but every member of the family usually belonged to some kind of hypernationalist state-sponsored gendered organization that taught decent Germans how to be loyal Nazis. While men and women (parents), oppressed and desperate after years of the Weimar regime, joined their respective clubs after work, on the weekend, whenever, the state took over education and parenting of impressionable children.