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Apparently gamefly has, or is afraid of, issues with it...

emailed me this:

Our records indicate that you recently rented an Xbox 360 game for the first time from GameFly. The Xbox 360 is a high-end gaming console, which uses state of the art mechanisms. As stated in the user's manual, it is important that the console not be moved in any way while a disc is in the tray. Moving the console from the horizontal to the vertical position and vice versa, picking up the console or shifting it in any way while a disc is in the tray may result in damage to the console, including scratches to game discs.

If you have further questions regarding the Xbox 360 console, please contact Microsoft at 1-800-4MY-XBOX.

sounds like a "cover our butt" email to me. i'm not sure that 360 dvd's are any more or less prone to scratches than any other dvd media though - probably not.

that being said, if you look at any rental game or movie dvd's it's pretty obvious people don't take care of their own stuff much less someone elses.

The scratching is just from teh disk rattling around in the tray as the console is moved around, isn't it?

People do take horrible care of rentals...shame really.

tnf wrote:The scratching is just from teh disk rattling around in the tray as the console is moved around, isn't it?

sure is. it won't get banged up any more than any other dvd unless whatever "special coating" they put on the 360 dvd's is more prone to it. little scratches are normal, nothing to write home about.

Can you scratch the lens by handling it while the CD is in? What about a computer?

good question. i have no idea.

I got the same e-mail.

No, you cannot scratch it by putting it in the CD, what they are getting at is when the console is on and the disk is spinning, And you pick the box up and move it to its side, the disk will lag a little behind due to the Force that it has from spinning.

and it usually only floats 1CM off of the tray, so thats not much give, and if it tuches the trey wile spinning

we'll sir, thats what we call mad scratches

The only way to completely stop the problem from happening is installing a lil rubber pad/grommet thing on the lazer arm, because that's what it grinds into, a few 360 modscenes have confirmed it works, and btw, it only happens when you move the box...

Yea, but what's with the part where they say it could damage the console?

It could, adding more weight to the arm would hypothetically wear the motors out faster, and if somthing were to happen and that were to restrict movement or fall deeper into the 360 it could do some damage....

I did it to my 360 just to be safe, i even shook the 360 with a game playing to see what happened, nothing but a lil rubber smudge that comes off with a wipe of a microfiber cloth...

Just dont turn it 90 degrees and itll be fine. Not hard to not do that. But yeah you can add rubber pads thatll fix it.

just to be safe? why the hell would you move it while a disc is spinning anyway?

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:just to be safe? why the hell would you move it while a disc is spinning anyway?

This is what I don't understand in the first place..who is moving these things while the disc is spinning?

well, this is the general public we're talking about here.

tnf wrote:

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:just to be safe? why the hell would you move it while a disc is spinning anyway?

This is what I don't understand in the first place..who is moving these things while the disc is spinning?

I hear it's an expert's tip to make their gameplay harder. They have to keep moving the console in a circle while trying to play the game 8)

tnf wrote:

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:just to be safe? why the hell would you move it while a disc is spinning anyway?

This is what I don't understand in the first place..who is moving these things while the disc is spinning?

Maybe you need to fiddle with the wires or whatever. I move my HTPC and also my desktop PC while its running...

but you're not going from a horizontal position to a vertical one. apparently that's what idiots are doing with the 360 while the disk is spinning.

indeed it is. same goes for ps2, although that seems to be less of a problem

while playing video games i often find myself pondering the orientation of my consoles and therefore moving them around. i currently have my snes velcroed to my cieling.

obsessive compulsive much?

MJK, the PS2 has Felt tips that help out, atleast the ones that i have taken apart/fixed have. They prevent the disk from scratching, ( V1, V5, V7, V12 )

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:well, this is the general public we're talking about here.

so true

One thing i like about the slimline PS2 is that it "locked" the disk in place.

I know you cant do that so easily on a drive like the 360 has But its nice because you can pick the fucker up and swing it around and it wont budge.

AmIdYfReAk wrote:MJK, the PS2 has Felt tips that help out, atleast the ones that i have taken apart/fixed have. They prevent the disk from scratching, ( V1, V5, V7, V12 )

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:well, this is the general public we're talking about here.

so true

aye. my ps2 scratched up my ridgeracer 5 disc though. it still works but the scratches are pretty bad. and i didnt even move it about, and it was in the horizontal position. it sucked

Thats why i wont ever put them standing up. I just don t trust it for some reason.

However, for the Revolution, I wont have much choice, its just too sexy