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Original Xbox and Component Video...
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:29 am
by Berserker
Ok...I have an original Xbox I am using on an LCD Flatpanel TV. The TV can receive a component signal which is 480i/p or "Enhanced Definition". Would I see any improvment if I was to get the HD AV kit for the Xbox or would this not even be compatible and be wasting money?
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:35 am
by +JuggerNaut+
component is "enhanced def", not composite. and "yes" you'll notice a difference. if not, please gouge out your eyes with a mellon baller.
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:35 am
by primaltheory
It should be compatable, if you're an a/v nut like me, or you have sharp eyes (and a nice screen) you might notice, i found that using composite was a nicer picture, I wish they had DVI, as it looks the best imo.
It can't go any higher then 480p?
if it can't nevermind
Legend for idiots
480i = Normal Tv
480p = Progressive Scan Tv
720i = 720 interlaced (not used?)
720p = 720 progressive (1st hd format)
1080i = 1080 interlaced (2nd, better looking format)
1080p = not really used, mostly for bragging rights on new tvs...
the arguement of choice right now is that 720p looks better because it is essentially more lines...
also, you can do progressive scan with S-Video as well, so go with that as it's cheaper...You don't need hidef if you aren't gonna use it...
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:37 am
by +JuggerNaut+
primaltheory wrote:It should be compatable, if you're an a/v nut like me, or you have sharp eyes (and a nice screen) you might notice, i found that using composite was a nicer picture, I wish they had DVI, as it looks the best imo.
It can't go any higher then 480p?
if it can't nevermind
Legend for idiots
480i = Normal Tv
480p = Progressive Scan Tv
720i = 720 interlaced (not used?)
720p = 720 progressive (1st hd format)
1080i = 1080 interlaced (2nd, better looking format)
1080p = not really used, mostly for bragging rights on new tvs...
the arguement of choice right now is that 720p looks better because it is essentially more lines...
you sure you're an a/v nut using composite?
Re: Original Xbox and Component Video...
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:42 am
by andyman
Berserker wrote:Ok...I have an original Xbox I am using on an LCD Flatpanel TV. The TV can receive a component signal which is 480i/p or "Enhanced Definition". Would I see any improvment if I was to get the HD AV kit for the Xbox or would this not even be compatible and be wasting money?
My cousin has a progressive scan tv and he uses the HD kit for the xbox. I'll tell you what....halo 2 looks MUCH sharper on his tv.
I thought my tv was progressive scan, but it is the lower version of 480. i or p, i don't know.....but it still looks decent.
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:42 am
by primaltheory
I hate that, I mix them up, the red green blue ones, not the red yellow white (damn my almost-dislexia)....
And no, that was what I used with xbox, but now that I have 360 I use DVI
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:44 am
by Berserker
Great. Thanks guys. I'm new to the whole HD thing. I always just used the yellow red and white RCA jacks. But, seeing as its there I may as well put it to use.
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:45 am
by +JuggerNaut+
Berserker wrote:Great. Thanks guys. I'm new to the whole HD thing. I always just used RCA jacks. But, seeing as its there I may as well put it to use.
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:48 am
by Guest
S-video vs 480p via component is a day and night difference.
Btw, primaltheory should stop posting.
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:52 am
by Giraffe }{unter
I borrowed the Monster cable HD kit from work, it works so good I still have not returned it. Yes there is a noticable differance.
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:45 am
by +JuggerNaut+
Giraffe }{unter wrote:I borrowed the Monster cable HD kit from work, it works so good I still have not returned it. Yes there is a noticable differance.
good thing you borrowed the monster cable - that crap's as overpriced as bose.
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:26 am
by Berserker
Sup G}{, sorry I hadn't been to your last couple of Halo2 games. I'm offshore and won't be home till the 18th.
I agree, Moster Cable stuff is way overpriced. I'm sure its good quality stuff, but come on. Looks like the HD kit may be harder to find than I thought. I checked Wal-mart, Best Buy, Circuit City, and none of them have it.
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:24 pm
by Dark Metal
I have the HD kit and it's a vast imporvement.
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:39 pm
by MKJ
ive had the hd kit for quite a while (actually its called the advanced scart in euro, and it comes with only 3 cables instead of 5) yet my beamer wont pick it up. quite annoying to say the least
i never really made an effort to fix it though, it might be very easy to fix. either that or the advanced av simply doesnt support progressive like the HD kit does
oh wlel when the 360 gets here itll all be HD :icon14:
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:01 pm
by r3t
PAL xboxes simply don't support progressive scan. You'll need to switch your xbox to ntsc for it to work, either by modding it or by using a savegame exploit.
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:06 pm
by Fender
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:Giraffe }{unter wrote:I borrowed the Monster cable HD kit from work, it works so good I still have not returned it. Yes there is a noticable differance.
good thing you borrowed the monster cable - that crap's as overpriced as bose.
*wub*
Buy
Other
Sound
Equipment
Yeah, I think I got th $15 HD cable and the difference is very easy to see.
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:16 pm
by MKJ
r3t wrote:PAL xboxes simply don't support progressive scan. You'll need to switch your xbox to ntsc for it to work, either by modding it or by using a savegame exploit.
gay. kinda what i thought though
the ps2 does support progressive on some games (and for dvd playback). but i never got the cables for it so that point is moot too :O
Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:47 pm
by Giraffe }{unter
Berserker wrote:Sup G}{, sorry I hadn't been to your last couple of Halo2 games. I'm offshore and won't be home till the 18th.
I agree, Moster Cable stuff is way overpriced. I'm sure its good quality stuff, but come on. Looks like the HD kit may be harder to find than I thought. I checked Wal-mart, Best Buy, Circuit City, and none of them have it.
Cool, I'm working out the issues eliminating the occasional butmuch that joins to be anoying, I'm starting to get a steady stream of good playing regulars now and cuting down on the amount of people allowed in my arena. If you ever have issues getting in just IM me I'll kick someone :icon34: