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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4578412.stm

still i see loads of those escalades tho

ps hi

no thx says america...you just don't hear that story.

people love imports here but the premium is just to high

prince1000 wrote:no thx says america...you just don't hear that story.

"Investors are spooked by models such as GM's new Cadillac Escalade, a bulky luxury sports utility vehicle (SUV) that is more a symbol of what has gone wrong for the world's largest car maker than a hint at a better future."

Yee ouch Haa

oh its says.

well thats it then they said.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/3546229.stm

Yee ouch Haa

booooring.

cars

the mustang has got to be the sexiest car ever made though, to be fair

as for asian car makers, gimme a break. they make the shittiest-looking generic pieces of crap on four wheels

I'd have to say that's a bit unfair, actually... unfair to every other decent-looking car.
I am sorry, but mustangs are foul-looking.

seremtan wrote: as for asian car makers, gimme a break. they make the shittiest-looking generic pieces of crap on four wheels

yea, who cares about mileage. your car only counts if it weighs 2 tonnes or more!

seremtan wrote:as for asian car makers, gimme a break. they make the shittiest-looking generic pieces of crap on four wheels

Now that's just not true. There are plenty of interesting looking cars and sports cars that come from/have come from Asia. Mitsubishi should ring a bell. Acura has some nice cars. Toyota at least has the supra. Subaru is ace. There are plenty more

eepberries wrote:

seremtan wrote:as for asian car makers, gimme a break. they make the shittiest-looking generic pieces of crap on four wheels

Now that's just not true. There are plenty of interesting looking cars and sports cars that come from/have come from Asia. Mitsubishi should ring a bell. Acura has some nice cars. Toyota at least has the supra. Subaru is ace. There are plenty more

I think in general seremtan is right, but as always it's subjective. I personally would fully disagree with you on all of those points. I do, however, like the look of the most recent Camry, and Nissan's styling is now pretty good (was terrible up until the latest models).

Doombrain wrote:

prince1000 wrote:no thx says america...you just don't hear that story.

"Investors are spooked by models such as GM's new Cadillac Escalade, a bulky luxury sports utility vehicle (SUV) that is more a symbol of what has gone wrong for the world's largest car maker than a hint at a better future."

Yee ouch Haa

what? cause i'm american i automatically love suv's? i'm well aware of the cultural state of the homeland, moreso than any european.

werldhed wrote:

eepberries wrote:

seremtan wrote:as for asian car makers, gimme a break. they make the shittiest-looking generic pieces of crap on four wheels

Now that's just not true. There are plenty of interesting looking cars and sports cars that come from/have come from Asia. Mitsubishi should ring a bell. Acura has some nice cars. Toyota at least has the supra. Subaru is ace. There are plenty more

I think in general seremtan is right, but as always it's subjective. I personally would fully disagree with you on all of those points. I do, however, like the look of the most recent Camry, and Nissan's styling is now pretty good (was terrible up until the latest models).

uh huh. i love every model of Nissan's new line. even the pig that is the Armada is sexeh.

werldhed wrote:I'd have to say that's a bit unfair, actually... unfair to every other decent-looking car.
I am sorry, but mustangs are foul-looking.

i was thinking of the way they sound more than anything else

yeah, clearly american cars are mostly hideous. that's a given

eepberries wrote:

seremtan wrote:as for asian car makers, gimme a break. they make the shittiest-looking generic pieces of crap on four wheels

Now that's just not true. There are plenty of interesting looking cars and sports cars that come from/have come from Asia. Mitsubishi should ring a bell. Acura has some nice cars. Toyota at least has the supra. Subaru is ace. There are plenty more

one word: hyundai

seremtan wrote:

werldhed wrote:I'd have to say that's a bit unfair, actually... unfair to every other decent-looking car.
I am sorry, but mustangs are foul-looking.

i was thinking of the way they sound more than anything else

yeah, clearly american cars are mostly hideous. that's a given

Yeah, the RX-8 sure do sound stupid

Doombrain wrote:

seremtan wrote:

werldhed wrote:I'd have to say that's a bit unfair, actually... unfair to every other decent-looking car.
I am sorry, but mustangs are foul-looking.

i was thinking of the way they sound more than anything else

yeah, clearly american cars are mostly hideous. that's a given

Yeah, the RX-8 sure do sound stupid

mustang = sounds sexy
asian cars = look hideous

which parts of the engrish langridge you having trouble wid, mistah?

I don't like the retro cars but I am interested in seeing what they do with the Camaro.

That being said, I've never really liked American cars in the first place.

seremtan wrote:

eepberries wrote:

seremtan wrote:as for asian car makers, gimme a break. they make the shittiest-looking generic pieces of crap on four wheels

Now that's just not true. There are plenty of interesting looking cars and sports cars that come from/have come from Asia. Mitsubishi should ring a bell. Acura has some nice cars. Toyota at least has the supra. Subaru is ace. There are plenty more

one word: hyundai

The two hyundai's I've owned have outlived 3 american cars; Two GM and one Ford.

They have publicly stated they "borrow" concepts from other car makers. They're also the #1 fastest growing car company AND have joined the ranks of Toyota with increased sales in the U.S.

Yeah... hyundai ...

eepberries wrote: Subaru is ace.

LOL those cars are blindingly ugly.

duffman91 wrote:

seremtan wrote:

eepberries wrote: Now that's just not true. There are plenty of interesting looking cars and sports cars that come from/have come from Asia. Mitsubishi should ring a bell. Acura has some nice cars. Toyota at least has the supra. Subaru is ace. There are plenty more

one word: hyundai

The two hyundai's I've owned have outlived 3 american cars; Two GM and one Ford.

They have publicly stated they "borrow" concepts from other car makers. They're also the #1 fastest growing car company AND have joined the ranks of Toyota with increased sales in the U.S.

Yeah... hyundai ...

Just got a hyundai tucson for the wife, she loves it.. I'm still driving the VW Jetta 1.8T..

american cars have become bland generic crap.... i thought that was a known fact by now.
the only american cars i can think of from recent years that are even remotely interesting would be the new vette, 300c, and the solstice.
everything else is just a lame suv, or a boring four door sedan or some neo-retro nonsense (mustang, charger, etc...)
the best thing american car companies can do to revitalize things would be to fire the entire design team and the ass-hats in charge of the uterly disgusting interior construction that has plagued all US cars for over a decade.
boosting a neon or rebadging a cavalier isn't going to fool people in to buying them when euros & asians have competing models in all product ranges that are for the most part; superior in every comparitive category. (except for $:displacement ratio... but in real-world usefulness thats more pointless today than ever before.)