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Scandal brings down canadian government?

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:21 am
by tnf
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/ ... index.html

Something about kickbacks and whatnot.

Canadians - will this have any substantial impacts on everday living (taxes, healthcare, etc..)?

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:30 am
by Guest
Depends on who gets elected... the Liberals might win again :olo: Theres no other good party to vote for... So in January I will most likely vote for the Liberals.

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:31 am
by shadd_
i don't think anything will change. the government isn't really kicked out per se. they are just obliged to call an election after a non-confidence vote.

they will likely get back in power with another minority government and the only thing that will be different is the billion dollars less in the government coffers for election costs.

it's a long story anyways, goes back to pre 1995 concerning quebecs failed vote on sovereignty and the federal governments campaign to sway quebecers through ads and private ad firms.

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:20 am
by Jackal
The Liberals should not get voted in again.

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:20 am
by Jackal
and regardless of who does win, nothing in health care, taxes, etc are going to change.

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:21 am
by Jackal
ooo that be some poor engrish on my part.

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:24 am
by Tormentius
shadd_ wrote:i don't think anything will change. the government isn't really kicked out per se. they are just obliged to call an election after a non-confidence vote.

they will likely get back in power with another minority government and the only thing that will be different is the billion dollars less in the government coffers for election costs.

it's a long story anyways, goes back to pre 1995 concerning quebecs failed vote on sovereignty and the federal governments campaign to sway quebecers through ads and private ad firms.
Exactly. The scandal involved the previous Prime Minister but now the opposition party has forced a Christmas election on us. I'll vote Liberal purely out of disgust with the other parties and, with any luck, enough other Canadians will feel the same that the Liberals will get in with even more seats than they had since the last election. It would be a fitting irony for the opposition who is so eager to waste our tax dollars on an unnecessary election.</rant>

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:28 am
by Tormentius
Jackal wrote:The Liberals should not get voted in again.
Our other options are:

1) The NDP who has driven the country into debt and generally made a bloody mess of things

2) The Bloc Quebecois who want Quebec to separate from the rest of Canada and are really only concerned with French Canadians

3) The Conservatives who have worse political idealogies than Bush's administration and whose members include open and unapologetic racists.

IMO the Liberals are the lesser of the evils.

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 2:56 am
by jester!
Sad but true. I personally would go with the conservatives, but the christian right frightens me.

Its funny but a guy from Halifax is very pro Bloc, he wants all the provinces to gain more autonomy, and in alberta's case that would only be a winning situation imo.

Really though another Liberal focused government almost without doubt.

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:01 am
by Massive Quasars
Jackal wrote:The Liberals should not get voted in again.
They can, and will. Fuck Harper. I'm not pleased with the Liberals' performance, but I believe all alternatives are shittier.

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:01 am
by shadd_
so alberta isn't winning now in the current federal/provincial enviroment? how about newfoundland? rolling in the dough and continuing to recieve transfer payments. wait, bad point that one.

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:01 am
by Massive Quasars
Torm nailed it.

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:02 am
by shadd_
harper wears a butt plug.

you can tell. his whole faced moves towards the center in a pucker.

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:05 am
by Massive Quasars
jester! wrote:Sad but true. I personally would go with the conservatives, but the christian right frightens me.
They exist within the conservative party, they're just supressed... for now.

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:06 am
by Tormentius
Massive Quasars wrote:
Jackal wrote:The Liberals should not get voted in again.
They can, and will. Fuck Harper. I'm not pleased with the Liberals' performance, but I believe all alternatives are shittier.
Exactly. I'm not a big fan of the Liberals either but they seem to be the best option right now.

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:25 am
by Guest
Yea, just like I said in the second post, no other choice...

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:41 am
by shadd_
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:52 am
by Duhard
liberals are retarded...pretty much like the rest of ontario..

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:16 am
by shadd_
Duhard wrote:liberals are retarded...pretty much like the rest of ontario..
yeah but you gotta agree those quebecers are fuckin morons. they easily beat ontario out for dumbest province.

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:20 am
by Wizard .3
Canadian politics are handicapped right now. I don't see the upcoming election changing anything.

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:28 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:35 am
by Massive Quasars

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:45 am
by Canidae
Wizard .3 wrote:Canadian politics are handicapped right now. I don't see the upcoming election changing anything.
I wonder if the Governor-General is , instead of an election, considering asking Harper to form a governing coalition.
There is precedence for it.


http://canadaonline.about.com/od/gg/p/byng.htm

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:20 am
by Scarface
I'm from Alberta, and my vote doesn't even matter since something like 58% of the voling population is in the east.

I am a conservative, but fuck harper

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:21 am
by Dave
shadd_ wrote:
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my eyes