Quake3World

Posted: **Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:48 pm**

Could they just not be bothered?

Posted: **Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:03 pm**

Human resources, deadline, and time constraints.

Obviously.

Posted: **Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:18 pm**

I heard it was not possible on the pc, the 360 should have bots.

Posted: **Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:26 pm**

Raven could have very easily added bots, so perhaps they delayed adding bots in an attempt to intice more people to try online play, its quite addictive u know :icon29:

Posted: **Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:27 pm**

shiznit wrote:I heard it was not possible on the pc, the 360 should have bots.

Dont be stupid, thats leaning. Everybody knows that leaning is impossible in First person games. Willits said so.

Posted: **Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:34 pm**

Maybe we get bost later with a point release.

Posted: **Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:36 pm**

Jenny wrote:Raven could have very easily added bots

Do you have any idea what a bitch it is to write a good MP bot?

Posted: **Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:40 pm**

No I don't think you guys understand it because you don't know how it works. I do because I understand how it all works. Remember id software could not get co-op on the pc but could get it on the xbox? Same thing here, it’s simply impossible for Raven to do it. Computers are simply not smart enough, maybe if we had skynet.

Posted: **Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:56 pm**

Sarcasm?

Posted: **Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:09 pm**

^misantropia^ wrote:
Jenny wrote:Raven could have very easily added bots
Do you have any idea what a bitch it is to write a good MP bot?

Yes. (i'm not implying they're easy to make)

Posted: **Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:24 pm**

who needs bots anyway? why play a bot when there's a whole community out there to play against?

Posted: **Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:25 pm**

Thats stupid Eraser and you know it.

Not everyone has a good connection.
Also, we need bots for all the custom maps we create that no one gives a shit about.

Posted: **Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:42 pm**

And for playing while our connection is under heavy use

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:13 am**

And just for practicing....

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:00 am**

yeah, I think the bots are really helpful for level development, helps you see where to optimise and stuff. waiting for the oak Bots to come out for Q4. Maybe I'll trundle on over there now and see if there's any news.

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:11 am**

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Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:14 am**

It seems like a lot of work for a very small percentage of people who will actually miss them.

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:16 am**

I don't care for playing bots, but I'm sure there are people who do.

If Raven or id looked at the online servers to get an idea, they probably decided nobody uses them since they're disabled on most good servers.

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:17 am**

Yeah but bots are for offline play primarily.

Being able to have a deathmatch in single player adds a whole extra element to the game, besides the single player campaign. It's seperate from the online multiplayer in terms of gameplay because bots are fun, just not in the same way as playing online.

Also, you can't judge how popular bots are in most games, because they're primarily played against offline.

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:31 am**

Yea, that was kinda my point.

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:15 am**

although if you want to get familiar with online play, its good to have a bot or two to go against so you can sus out the play online with the impact of ping, rather than in sp....

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:35 pm**

Cause human opponents are more challenging....
....well most of the time

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:03 pm**

R00k wrote:Yea, that was kinda my point.

I just reread your post and I really missed the gist of what you were saying, sorry :icon32:

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:09 pm**

inolen wrote:It seems like a lot of work for a very small percentage of people who will actually miss them.

I'd say it's the other way around... if you think about the number of units that Quake 3 shifted compared to the number of players that were online at any given moment, you'd be looking at max 10% of units sold (specualtive observation of course). What are the other 90% doing [insert smutty joke here]?

Posted: **Wed Oct 19, 2005 4:15 pm**

Kat wrote:
inolen wrote:It seems like a lot of work for a very small percentage of people who will actually miss them.
I'd say it's the other way around... if you think about the number of units that Quake 3 shifted compared to the number of players that were online at any given moment, you'd be looking at max 10% of units sold (specualtive observation of course). What are the other 90% doing [insert smutty joke here]?

Well it's not like all 100% of the people who bought Q3 are playing at the same time. You could say that 10% are playing online, 85% aren't playing, and 5% playing offline at any given moment. It's hard to estimate how many people actually play with bots.

Quake3World

Is there actually a reason for no mp bots?

Is there actually a reason for no mp bots?