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Footnotes
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:29 pm
by shiznit
I can't seem to find out how I could footnote sections of the book, they only show page numbers and I think you need to do sections for books that use them.
Using MLA style because my prof hasn't specified what to acctually use.
So here is one example.
Morgan, Michael L., ed. Classics of Moral and Political Theory. 3rd ed. Indianapolis: Hackett Company, 2001. 20.
But I'm acctually using a ton of stuff from page 20, and it's all under different sections like 47b, 47c, 48, etc. Anyone know the correct way to add it to the footnote?
Would it be 20, 47c. or 20:47c.
Re: Footnotes
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:31 pm
by [FTF]Pyro
shiznit wrote:I can't seem to find out how I could footnote sections of the book, they only show page numbers and I think you need to do sections for books that use them.
Using MLA style because my prof hasn't specified what to acctually use.
So here is one example.
Morgan, Michael L., ed. Classics of Moral and Political Theory. 3rd ed. Indianapolis: Hackett Company, 2001. 20.
But I'm acctually using a ton of stuff from page 20, and it's all under different sections like 47b, 47c, 48, etc. Anyone know the correct way to add it to the footnote?
Would it be 20, 47c. or 20:47c.
I dont think there is a "correcT" way to add a footnote. I think it just needs to be consistent so if you use this
20:47c
make sure you use this for the rest of the paper
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:31 pm
by phantasmagoria
are you using ms word?
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:35 pm
by Foo
YOU APPEAR TO BE WRITING A LETTER
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:37 pm
by shiznit
Yes I am using Office 2003, well I just read over the material that I had and it doesn't specify but I think it's page:section. Since the bible is done this way, as far as I can tell.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:38 pm
by [FTF]Pyro
shiznit wrote:the bible
wouldnt have a clue.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:43 pm
by Dave
You only have to use (Author #) for MLA and your bibliography example is wrong because you shouldn't use page numbers
Oh, it seems you do use page #s in mla.. that's retarded
http://www.bedfordstmartins.com/hacker/pdf/mla.pdf
for some examples
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:47 pm
by shiznit
Yes you do use page # in MLA, it's not (Author #) but Ibid. if you using the same book over and over.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:54 pm
by Dave
eh? you're not doing MLA then if you're using ibid... you're doing Turabian/Chicago.
When I said you don't use page numbers, i meant for your "footnote"/bibliography page in MLA. The example paper i posted uses page numbers. I thought it was citing books, but it was citing magazine articles. So no, for a bibliography entry on a MLA paper you don't use page numbers if you're citing a book.
Your example is a bibliography entry, not a"footnote" if you're dong MLA
go here for some links info about putting your ass in the know
http://www.uiowa.edu/~histwrit/style_and_citation.htm
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:59 pm
by shiznit
I guess I'm just used to Ibid because I had a TA that would enforce it. But it says here that Ibid can still be used.
http://www.aresearchguide.com/7footnot.html
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:04 pm
by Dave
Well, whatever the case, you only use page numbers. In every page/link/example posted only pages are used.
But if you want some advice, use chicago manual of style with your source citiations in footnotes at the bottom of the page because it will make your paper shorter (especially if you cite a lot). Instructors make you use endnotes on purpose so you don't try do that, but if the guy didn't specify...
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:09 pm
by shiznit
Alright thanks for the advice.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 10:17 pm
by PhoeniX
Harvard referencing
Using parenthical references, or references in brackets, after the sentence in the format "(Author-Last-Name, Year)" is called Harvard referencing; for example (Smith, 2005).
Normally, you would use the original publication year for a re-published work. If the cited information is not easy to find with just that information — for example, if it is a poorly indexed topic in a large book — add the page numbers ("p. 15" or "pp. 12–23") after the year, separating the two with a comma; for example, (Smith, 2005, p. 15). However, if you add page numbers, use the year of publication that the page numbers refer to, which may not be the original year of publication.
When a reference is used as a noun, put the year in parentheses (brackets), for example "Smith (2005) says ..." For two authors, use (Smith & Jones, 2005); for more authors, use (Smith et al, 2005).
Note that Harvard referencing is not complete without the full citation at the end of the page in the References section. Full citations might need to distinguish between works by the same author published in the same year: for instance (Smith, 2005a) and (Smith, 2005b) should reflect separate entries in the references list.
A full citation in the References section for (Smith, 2005) would be:
* Smith, J. How to cite your sources, Random House, 2005. ISBN 1607000X
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External links
Main article: Wikipedia:Manual of Style (links)
Displaying a text
See Wikipedia:Cite sources/example style#Web sites and articles (not from periodicals). Of course, a Harvard style reference can be the displayed text for an external link, if the referenced work is available on-line.
Numbered
A URL surrounded by single square brackets displays as a clickable number between square brackets followed by an arrow, and leads to the webpage mentioned in the URL. For example, [
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cite_sources] renders as [1].
Although this type of external references can occasionally be useful, it gives no clear indication to the reader what can be expected before pointing to (and eventually clicking) the link, so, when using in-line links, an external link displaying a text is generally preferred.
Note that such automatically numbered external links are not compatible with most footnote systems.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia: ... ur_sources