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What should I do. This is really pissing me off. I've had problems of ctrl+c working erraticly before, but now copy and paste doesn't work at all (whether I use ctrl+c or do it the manual way)

Help me Quake 3 World, you're my only hope :icon23:

is there an ie security settings thing about that?

i have no clue but did you try clearing your cache (i have no idea if that would work) or resetting?

reboot?

So if you select text, and you right-click copy it, there's just nothing there to paste? Have you tried it in different applications/programs?

It's working again now, but does anyone have any ideas as to why anything like this would be coming up in the first place? It's really annoying not being able to trust ctrl+c. These days I right click instead because half the time ctrl+c doesn't do anything D:

T&T.

T_T.

Perhaps your control and/or c key is going bad. Or perhaps another application has a hotkey set to ctrl+c.

bitWISE wrote:Perhaps your control and/or c key is going bad. Or perhaps another application has a hotkey set to ctrl+c.

I don't think it's either one, because all other ctrl combinations work fine, and my c buttong alone works fine. Also, ctrl+c works intermitently, rather than just not working at all. Like maybe I'll have to do ctrl+c a couple times for it to work, or maybe just once. Or maybe 10.

Try a different keyboard for a little while, if you get the same problem then it's probally the os.

alright eepberries, do not lose hope because i'm here to solve your problem. what you must do first is copy this long article and print it...only then will we have finished the prereqs to solv-ation.

Submitted by: Lee
08-05-2005
I've owned my Tempest 165 for a little more than a year and a half. I've paddled it in a wide range of conditions, including calm bays, surf, rock gardens, open ocean crossings up to 38 NM, camping trips, and strong winds. It is a very versatile boat.
There is a good balance between primary and secondary stability. The boat tracks well but also turns well when put on edge. It is reasonably fast, considering its 16.5 foot length, and it is exceptionally well-behaved in strong winds.

Pros:
1) The cockpit is extremely comfortable.
2) Seat, thigh braces, hip pads, and foot pegs are easily adjustable.
3) It has good speed, despite its relatively short length.
4) The boat shines in the wind. The skeg allows excellent trimming for weathercocking and leecocking.
5) The front deck is low, reducing paddle strikes for short paddlers.
6) The backband and back deck are low, permitting the paddler to lie completely back on
the deck. This is also good for cowboy scrambles or other re-entries over the back deck. 7) The boat is very easy to roll.
8) Hardware and finish are good.
9) The convenient day hatch provides quick access to munchies, a paddle jacket, or other items.
10) The recessed compass niche is perfectly located and convenient.

Cons:
1) Limited storage space for long trips. I find it adequate for 4-5 days.
2) Like any skeg boat, the skeg can jam. It needs occasional lubrication & cleaning.
3) On my boat the day hatch and rear hatch leak despite numerous attempts to fix them. I've talked with other Tempest owners who had similar problems.

I have enjoyed the boat tremendously and plan to keep it for a long time to come.
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: yakinoregon
06-27-2005
My experience with the plastic Tempest 165 has been fair enough although I just sold it after 2 years. I can't speak for the fiberglass model, I originally demoed both, but the seat and center of gravity felt higher on the fiberglass, almost like I was in a sit on top. Didn't feel like I was connected enough.

The best feature about this boat is that it is designed with thigh, hip and knee braces already installed. You can easily adjust it to a variety of humans (I'm a 5'3" female). It would be nice if other mfrs did that.

The worst feature is that every hatch leaks, the worst is the small day hatch. Sure, all plastic boats may leak, but this is the worst I've had so far. Yeah I use dry bags, but the bungee cords are annoying (funky design) and easy to lose, and the covers are not at all easy to put back on.

Like the many similarly-designed boats, it works well in rough water and will take care of you. It's tough finding that perfect all around performance boat (like to play and do long tours on the same trips). So I'm not impressed with my forward progress in quiet water or into 25 knot winds in Lopez Pass. It bounces along nicely in following seas.

I agree entirely with the previous review's example regarding correcting strokes. Even if you're a diehard "no skeg" user, you get tired of correcting and end up using it. I don't agree that the skeg is useless, you'll notice the drag and less maneuverability in waves when it's there, and it does get you from A to B. The skeg doesn't seem to leak. No problem rolling it.
Rating: 6 of 10

Submitted by: Pierre-Olivier Renaud
06-10-2005
Overall the Tempest 165 is a fair kayak, for sea kayakers with extreme paddling skills that do not like to paddle with the skeg in water. Comfort, fit, control, and playability of this kayak are very good. It does not have the BULLETPROOF, secondary stability of its 170 counterpart, but is still very comfortable. Also it's quite fast!

Here is something obvious to me that I did not read from anybody yet. If you are looking to go from point A to point B in a straight line with back wind and waves greater than 2-3 feet, unfortunately you are looking for a bumpy ride, and you will require a lot of corrections. The skeg design for this boat is insufficient and the skeg is almost useless. Would this be corrected this would improve the boat many folds.
Rating: 7 of 10

Submitted by: wrighton
09-29-2004
I just bought my second Tempest 165. Why would I need more than one? Yes, I've become one of those people whom one kayak is not enough. I bought a Tempest 165pro earlier in the year (see my review in February 2004). I still love that kayak. I had an opportunity to paddle in the surf and go caving on the Oregon coast early in the summer. It was the first time in the 18 months that I've paddled that I got knocked over, a couple of times. I didn't like the gel coat getting scratched on the beach, or the thought of something worse happening. I need this kayak every weekend and cannot tolerate it being out of commission.

I do plan on going out into the surf a lot more and I need a buddy boat for one of my teens so it seemed very reasonable to get a used plastic kayak. A quick assessment of kayaks out there for my size ruled out all but the Necky Chatham 16 and the WS Tempest 165. The Chatham’s bow is very maneuverable it would be a fun boat in the surf, but the kayak doesn't track as well as the Tempest. Since I wasn't buying a kayak just for the surf I chose the Tempest 165. It was a good decision since the Tempest 165pro behaved wonderfully in the surf, maintains a nice speed and carries plenty of camping equipment too.

The plastic kayak responds just as nicely as my fiberglass kayak. It might even feel floatier? It edges just as nicely and rolling is a treat. I checked for leaks and found none. Hopefully WS has worked out the first year production bugs? The hatch covers seem too easy to get on and off compared to my fiberglass model, but the bungees take care of the fit well and I'll always have float bags installed when playing in the surf zone or crossing the surf zone. My fiberglass boat has a custom placed forward bulkhead so I don't use foot pegs. I'd like to change out the foot pegs in the plastic Tempest for more comfort, but that is the only thing I'd change.

What a lucky gal I am to have two Tempests. Why then am I dreaming about adding a Pygmy Artic Tern 14 and a surf ski to my fleet?
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: rmc
09-29-2004
I paddled a Current Design Slip Stream for four years. I had added an aftermarket back band to make up for the horrible stock back band, which offered no support.

Compared to the Slip Stream:
The Tempest 165 (I'm 5'9" 150 lbs) has fantastic secondary stability - I can easily J lean much further without swimming than I ever could in the Slipstream. Paddling the Slipstream is like riding a unicycle - if you have good balance and are vigilant, you stay dry. If not, you swim (or have an impromptu rolling practice).

It's a dream to go through all the BCU 3* "school figures"; the Tempest comes up nicely from sculling for support or a roll. I can lay back over the back deck, which I never could do comfortably in the Slip Stream. There's much more storage space under the hatches, especially under the rear hatch where the skeg is placed further back than in the Slip Stream.

The cockpit, ah, the cockpit. It's like padding while sitting in a Barca lounger - extremely comfortable. No more pinched nerves (Slip Stream) or cut off circulation in the butt cheeks (I test paddled a Romany - ugh!). No need to add glue-in hip pads (I have narrow hips) for fit - the stock setting is just fine. And the thigh pads are comfortable for edging.

Hatches close easily and are watertight. Foot pegs easily adjustable.

Handles beautifully in 1'-5' waves with good maneuverability. Will try in surf next weekend but expect only good results.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: rlprinter
08-20-2004
We are kayaking more and more in rocky areas. So to spare my fiberglass NDK Romany, I started looking for a plastic boat that has similar characteristics. After trying several boats and not liking them, I was very suprised to paddle the Tempest. It's fast, responds pretty good to lean turns and rolls very easily. I've had it in 2 foot waves and 10-15 knot winds. It behaved consistantly in cross, quartering and head winds. In strong tail winds or following seas it will want to broach. Corrective strokes or using the skeg will take care of that. As far as the leaking hatches goes, I've found that making sure the they are sealed properly helps. They still seep water a little bit when very wet or capsized. I always seal gear in dry bags anyway. Because the back deck is so low, it is difficult to fit large items in the rear hatch. The deck line arrangement is well thought out and give a lot of felxibility for storage. While it will never compare to a composite boat, it is a great boat for the money and well designed.
Rating: 8 of 10

Submitted by: watkinsd
07-12-2004
After buying and trying numerous yaks, I settled on the Tempest 165 Pro. Being a male at 5'10' and 150 lbs. many other yaks have cockpits that are too large -- including the Tempest 170. Prior to owning the Tempest, I had a WS Cape Horn 150 and a Perception Eclipse. The Tempest is a far superior yak in all aspects.

It tracks well, is easy to turn and put on its edge. Its primary and seconday stability is more than satisfactory. The cockpit fit is exceptional with the foot peds, the hip pads, the thigh supports and the seat all being easy to adjust and comfortable. I could not be more pleased.

I have yet to test the Tempest in "extreme" conditions as the current conditions here in NC are not very blustery. More later as I use what appears to be a winner.

By the way, the workmanship on the Tempest is outstanding. The fiber glass work is first class, the colors are bright and consistent and the elastic webbing is stong and well secured. I give the Tempest 165 Pro a 9 until I can test in more than normal conditions.
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: heronsflight
06-04-2004
I have been paddling many Wilderness Systems boats for years. I was excited about the design of the Tempest series. I took this one out for a class and tour and came back with all three hatches full of water even though I had properly attached the rubber hatch covers with their special bungees. Another person in the class tour also had the Tempest 170 and found the same thing. The Pro models don't have this problem. What I suggest is double drybag anything that is of importance to you in the rotomolded versions.
Rating: 6 of 10

Submitted by: J Wright
02-02-2004
I just bought a Tempest 165pro and I’d like to tell you why. First I should give you some personal stats. I am a 5’4”, 125 pound, female. I have gained intermediate kayaking skills while paddling a 16’8” Perception Shadow Sea Lion this past year.

While the Shadow is a great boat for camping and point A to point B paddling, I found it cumbersome to edge or roll. I started my mission to find a kayak that was easy to play in wind and waves and also easy to paddle long distances. I also wanted a kayak that I can expand my skills in.

I reviewed the buyer’s guides and websites. Due to my stature (or lack of) I quickly developed a short list of demo worthy boats by sitting in them. A lot of good boats had cockpits that were too big. These fit nice: Impex Currituck, NDK Romany, Necky Chatham 16, P&H Vela, VCP Pintail, WS Tempest 165pro.

Next I paddled them. I ruled out the Romany and Chatham 16 because they were not easy to paddle distances although they were very nimble. I didn’t paddle the Vela, I suspected that it would perform like the Romany due to its length. Oh, if only I could have a few boats, not just one. The Pintail was an echelon higher than I was willing to extend myself skill wise. That left me the Currituck and the Tempest 165pro to decide on.

The Currituck was a nice kayak. It came up to speed nicely, tracked well and flat turned well. The Currituck also edged wonderfully and securely. Too secure for my desires. So I moved on to the Tempest 165pro. I quickly adding up the assets of the Tempest 165pro. The seat is excellent. Very comfortable and form fitting. The thigh braces have a hooked shape at the inner thigh for more contact and ease of edging. It is very relaxing to lay back on; nothing jabbed me in the back and my arch wasn’t hyper-extended.

I took the demo to pool practice and found I could easily roll the Tempest. It felt like it wasn’t even there. Wet exiting was a challenge at first. Remember that this is my first snug fitting kayak. I had to think about not bringing both knees out at the same time. Quickly remedied!

I paddled the demo Tempest with some of my paddling buddies. I easily kept up and even had time to take some edged turns to look back at them and grin. The back hatch opening is large enough to accommodate my regular dry bag. A lot of other boats do not have this feature. I should have plenty of room to pack for camping (even with the skeg box), but I got even more room because I selected to have the bow bulkhead moved to use as my foot brace instead of foot pegs. Not only do I get eight more inches of storage, only my twin (if I had one) could use my boat since it is custom fitted to my leg length. With a boat like this who would want to share?
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: csnider
11-03-2003
I have had my Tempest 165 Roto for several months now. Best outfitting of any kayak on the market period thanks to it's whitewater cousins at Wave Sport, which have the best outfitting on the market. Easy to roll with or w/o a paddle, handles beam winds nicely and is a joy to paddle. I always love the sweeping proclamations made by paddlers reviewing a particular model who will rate the carrying capacity of a kayak as good for a weekend only, or one week only or two weeks only and so on. I just completed a 4 week trip down the Noatak River in Alaska in a Feathercraft Kahuna, which most so called reviewers rate as good for a maximum weekend touring boat. The only difference in my experience between a weekend trip and two weeks or more is the amount of fuel and food you will need to carry. Unless one is making a fashion statement, you will need the same amount of basic gear (tent, sleeping bag, stove, appropriate clothing for conditions, etc.) for a two day or a two week trip. The Tempest 165 can certainly handle long trips if my 14 ft. 9 inch Kahuna handled all my gear for 4 weeks.
Rating: 10 of 10

Submitted by: PF
09-25-2003
I just got a Tempest (in plastic) based strictly on the design, which is essencially that of a Nigel Dennis Romany, but in a much less expensive matierial. I have had the boat out in 5ft. chop, heavy winds, as well as out in perfectly glassy conditions. in all scenarios it has handled exceptionally well. A great boat learn/apply advanced paddling techniques in as well (i.e. rolling, and other self-rescues). The boat has enough capacity to do shorter trips (1 week max), but is still small enough to retain a certain ammount of playfulness.
Rating: 9 of 10

Submitted by: Jeff
05-05-2003
I just bought a Tempest 165 last week at my local REI and have had it out twice so far. I have not had it out on the ocean yet, but so far I am very pleased with the boat. It tracks extremely well and it is very stable. The only reason I don't give it a 10 is because the rear hatch is hard to get back on, it takes a little work. But once it is on, it stays on. Over all, I would say this is a very solid boat, and I can't wait to get it on the ocean.
Rating: 9 of 10

seza wrote:alright eepberries, do not lose hope because i'm here to solve your problem. what you must do first is copy this long article and print it...only then will we have finished the prereqs to solv-ation.

dont you think its pointless when he cant copy, then paste

would have been better to just say print this forum page blah blah..

T&A

eepberries wrote:

bitWISE wrote:Perhaps your control and/or c key is going bad. Or perhaps another application has a hotkey set to ctrl+c.

I don't think it's either one, because all other ctrl combinations work fine, and my c buttong alone works fine. Also, ctrl+c works intermitently, rather than just not working at all. Like maybe I'll have to do ctrl+c a couple times for it to work, or maybe just once. Or maybe 10.

have you tried taking the keyboard apart and cleaning the rails, or tried another keyboard ?

SoM wrote:

seza wrote:alright eepberries, do not lose hope because i'm here to solve your problem. what you must do first is copy this long article and print it...only then will we have finished the prereqs to solv-ation.

dont you think its pointless when he cant copy, then paste

would have been better to just say print this forum page blah blah..

your cellphone is ringing

(though its fair to say seza's post was pretty retarded)

also, have you tried this ?

If you ever find that you are unable to copy and paste in the Windows Explorer, open the Control Panel. Select the Internet Options applet and click on the Security tab. Then click on Custom Setting, find the option "Drag and copy or paste" and ensure that it is enabled.

Chupacabra wrote:

SoM wrote:

seza wrote:alright eepberries, do not lose hope because i'm here to solve your problem. what you must do first is copy this long article and print it...only then will we have finished the prereqs to solv-ation.

dont you think its pointless when he cant copy, then paste

would have been better to just say print this forum page blah blah..

your cellphone is ringing

(though its fair to say seza's post was pretty retarded)

doubt it, since i dont have one

and yes it was

also, what browser you using?

can u copy/paste from certain apps atc..