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workout advice
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:47 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
okay so I already play soccer three times a week, (Wed Sat Sun). I've just joined a gym and I'm looking for advice on how to gain definition, core strength and endurance (cardio)
thanks in advance. you're all beautiful
*looks at tnf*
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:50 am
by plained
wow you work out plenty ey
i'd guess its all diet .
im eating hagandaus vanillaswissalmond atm thats good for toine
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:54 am
by [xeno]Julios
for core strength you want to learn squats and deadlifts (romanian deadlifts are a good complement to squats)
definition is primarily a function of body fat and muscular development
i'll be over in the next 15 min
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:55 am
by Guest
Reincarnate into someone that isn't completely useless.
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:59 am
by plained
its i little unusaul that your not seeing the definition you want with your current activity level.
what do you eat?
dont bother destroying your back for def tho
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:01 am
by losCHUNK
aye mun thats wha i was thinking
footy gives pretty good muscle tone
stop drinking the beer
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:02 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
plained wrote:its i little unusaul that your not seeing the definition you want with your current activity level.
what do you eat?
dont bother destroying your back for def tho
i have half decent definition now. I'm was just trying to explain that it's not crazy mass that I'm looking for, rather just more strength and lean muscle
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:04 am
by plained
well then what do you eat cause its all that with all that soccer
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:04 am
by losCHUNK
im guessing running, rowing n all that stuff
i dunno tho, aint worked out in years
gyms round here will eat your money right outta your ass
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:04 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
i eat lots of pussy
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:05 am
by Duhard
I suggest you try Synthol..I just can't get enough of it!!
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:05 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
I'm joining the gym where julios goes so lord help me
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:05 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
Duhard wrote:I suggest you try Synthol..I just can't get enough of it!!
can i inject it into my pecker? I'd try that at least once.
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:06 am
by plained
yea synthol fraft dinner and toast and butter
then pussy
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:06 am
by plained
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:I'm joining the gym where julios goes so lord help me knees
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:23 am
by R00k
Yea, squats and deadlifts for core. For overall workout, do chest/triceps one day, back/biceps one day, and legs/stomach one day.
The main thing you don't want to do is increase your weight rapidly. Workout with an amount you can do 12 reps of while still pushing yourself. If you build too hard it might limit your flexibility and hurt your soccer game.
Have plenty of protein before and/or after your workouts. Probably sugars too, but I don't know enough about simple/complex sugars to give any advice there.
I'm sure tnf can expound on this a lot more than I though.
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:46 am
by tnf
i'd actually avoid the chest/tricep back/bicep, leg abs type bodybuilding routine if you are playing soccer and stick with core workouts - maybe even circuit training stuff where you hit the upper body one day and lower the next with nothing but basic movements.
i'll give you more specific advice later - probably not until next week as we are leaving for the middle of fucking nowhere tomorrow.
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 2:55 am
by Pooinyourmouth
Well according to geoff all you have to do is not eat and dont wipe your ass, and wah-lah.... you're fit.
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 3:33 am
by Canidae
Diet.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:40 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
okay so now I'm interested in 'workout nutrition'
what should i eat prior to a workout and what should I eat after? does it matter what kind of protein i get after a workout? i.e. is soy as good as tuna?
tia
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:45 pm
by tnf
shit sorry puff, I meant to get back to you a long time ago about things...pre workout - good stacked carbs, maybe a small amount of whey protein (just a few grams). Post workout whey protein is also good, it is quickly absorbed and cheap. Also, very important to get some carbs post workout (within 30 minutes)...if you want simple sugars, now would be the time to get them...replenish your liver glycogen stores.
but the bottom line is this - if you dont want to make a complete science out of it, post workout ANY protein is better than none. So maybe a fruit drink and some tuna after the workout if that is what you have.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:49 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
tnf wrote:shit sorry puff, I meant to get back to you a long time ago about things...pre workout - good stacked carbs, maybe a small amount of whey protein (just a few grams). Post workout whey protein is also good, it is quickly absorbed and cheap. Also, very important to get some carbs post workout (within 30 minutes)...if you want simple sugars, now would be the time to get them...replenish your liver glycogen stores.
but the bottom line is this - if you dont want to make a complete science out of it, post workout ANY protein is better than none. So maybe a fruit drink and some tuna after the workout if that is what you have.
no worries man I've been doing a lot of research and have been trying different stuff out at the gym. I've pretty much figured a solid routine for me I think.
thanks for the nutrition advice. i have a half hour to eat sweets after a workout?
i'll probably be eating a high protein cereal post workout. sound good?
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 11:53 pm
by tnf
i'd get something wtih simple sugars in there...unless the new research says otherwise...getting those simple sugars will help replenish that liver glycogen quickly. drink a high glycemic index juice or something after the workout...
i need to peruse the latest research..
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:33 am
by plained
its hard to know when exactly to do what.
especially sinse every person is so so vastly differant from the next.
you know when you squeeze your fist really tight and you feel strong as fuck sometimes?
i believe thats a good time to workout.
if you feel significally weaker than your strongest, dont work out, you may go in reverce.
the way people live today is all about fitting stuff in at a certain time.
sometimes that can be counterproductive to whats actually happening to your body.
if your not already superman, its a thinking mans game.
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 1:40 am
by tnf
plained wrote:its hard to know when exactly to do what.
especially sinse every person is so so vastly differant from the next.
you know when you squeeze your fist really tight and you feel strong as fuck sometimes?
i believe thats a good time to workout.
if you feel significally weaker than your strongest, dont work out, you may go in reverce.
the way people live today is all about fitting stuff in at a certain time.
sometimes that can be counterproductive to whats actually happening to your body.
if your not already superman, its a thinking mans game.
yea there are always some individual things, but there also some basic biological/physiological truths - its a matter of combining the two into a plan that works for you. That's why I think so much of teaching people a core group of exercises, nutrition strategies, etc., that they can modify and adjust to what works for them. I believe in building up someone's exercise 'toolbox' as opposed to just having them follow a cookie cutter routine (although those cookie cutter routines are often useful for getting someone started and into the game..)