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china-like censorship of the internet has begun...

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:42 pm
by Freakaloin
must be true...me and everyone i know on rr is having this same problem...is it time for civil war...whats the story?

source that i can't reach: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/oc ... ensors.htm


AOL Time-Warner Censors Alex Jones Websites
Nationwide blackout a clear attempt to shut down free speech

Prison Planet | October 5 2005

Time Warner's ISP, Road Runner, has blocked access to all of Alex Jones' flagship websites across the entire United States.

We were first alerted to this problem early this morning when several locals in Austin reported that they were unable to access Infowars.com, PrisonPlanet.com or Prison Planet.tv.

Austin Time Warner had previously shut down access to our websites on a whim, claiming they were 'hate material' but in all cases had quickly restored them after receiving complaints.

However, this latest attack on free speech is occurring nationwide, with Time Warner subscribers from New York to California reporting that their access to the websites is being blocked.

The last attempt to shut us down came shortly after the London Bombings, which saw our traffic go through the roof after we released a plethora of articles exposing government involvement.

The consequence of this is that Prison Planet.com alone on some days gets more hits than the Britney Spears website or Rush Limbaugh.

Previously we reported that UK ISPs like Tiscali were blocking their subscribers from accessing the website after the 7/7 bombings.

It is obvious that those in high places are showing their disapproval. This only vindicates all the information we have been putting out.

How can a website that merely reports and comments on mainstream media articles be described as 'hate' unless there's a different agenda afoot? How can Bill O'Reilly get on Fox News and call for assassinating Prime Ministers and Pat Robertson on the 700 Club do the same and yet we get censored for being hateful? We have never called for violence against anyone and actively encourage peaceful exchange of information.

This is part of a growing trend of authoritarian censorship of the Internet in preparation for the emergence of Internet 2, where only government approved websites will be allowed to exist and the old Internet will be shut down.

Monolithic corporations in lock-step with government are following the Chinese model, where any website mildly anti-establishment is immediately shut down and its owners arrested. The vast majority of Internet cafes in China were shut down in 2002 after the government started a fire in one Beijing cafe and then demanded all the rest be shut down for 'safety reasons'.

Under anti-terrorism laws in Italy, Internet cafe owners are forced to take photo ID's of all their customers and install key-logging and filter software which blocks any websites the government chooses.

Today's actions by Time Warner fall into the same category. The First Amendment is under siege by jack-booted totalitarians in suits that graciously lick the boots and follow the orders of the establishment lackeys.

In 2002 Dell Computers cancelled an order placed by Weigand Combat Handguns because the company name triggered a security alert. The word 'combat' was not accepted by Dell's post-9/11 security alert system. This is an example of the inane and sweeping nature of these filtrations systems and the blanket idiocy applied to these cases.

We are urging all our readers (not that you will even be able to read this if you subscribe to Time Warner!) to boycott any Time Warner/Road Runner ISP service and cancel your subscription with them. They have proven themselves time and time again to be an anti-American freedom hating tool of the establishment.

We urge you to double your efforts in spreading the truth. Copy and distribute our artcles more than ever. We are under a direct assault, the only response needs to be a massive and powerful counter-offensive. To all alternative media websites, please post this article as we are all in the same boat, we are all under enemy fire.

If Time Warner do not immediately restore subscribers' access to our websites we will initiate a wider boycott campaign. They are already receiving a deluge of complaints and according to some are now claiming that this is an 'error' that they are looking into and citing other websites that have also been affected, even though these websites are having no problems.

We will update this article as and when Time Warner restores access to Alex Jones' websites. If they fail to do so we will carry telephone numbers and e mail addresses for people to make their complaints.

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:43 pm
by Pext
lol... this sucks. i think alex jones is an idiot. but banning him? seems pretty fascist to me.

in fact: banning anything except child porn is rather strange.

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:45 pm
by Nightshade
All those dipshits are doing is lending credence to his rantings.
Fucking police state we live in...

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:48 pm
by R00k
Exactly. It might even end up giving him some free publicity.

It's completely ridiculous though.

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:58 pm
by mik0rs
*Syringe up the nose pic*

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:00 pm
by MKJ
mik0rs wrote:*Syringe up the nose pic*
that made me smirk like so :icon10: :smirk: :smirk:

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:01 pm
by MKJ
i have no idea why my face looked like an arrow btw

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:08 pm
by Freakaloin
it does say this on their network satus page though...


Road Runner is currently experiencing issues with connectivity to websites hosted by Cogent. This issue is being caused by third party issues. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.


if its not that then someone is gonna get hurt...

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:09 pm
by Don Carlos
Pext wrote:lol... this sucks. i think alex jones is an idiot. but banning him? seems pretty fascist to me.

in fact: banning anything except child porn is rather strange.
w3rd

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:19 pm
by 4days
Nightshade wrote:All those dipshits are doing is lending credence to his rantings.
Fucking police state we live in...
and they are rantings
Today's actions by Time Warner fall into the same category. The First Amendment is under siege by jack-booted totalitarians in suits that graciously lick the boots and follow the orders of the establishment lackeys.
that statement sounds true enough, but does he have to use words that'd look at home underneath an art-deco picture of a woman in dungarees driving a tank.

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:54 pm
by glossy
Well ISPs can choose to serve or block any pages they like. It's their rights as a service provider. I doubt anywhere in the Time Warner contract it says "We will always allow you access to all of the internet" -- more likely: "We reserve the right to suspent or limit connectivity without notice at any time"

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:04 pm
by Freakaloin
nazi?

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:12 pm
by Pext
you're a moron, glossy

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:17 pm
by Dek
hehe, AOL used to tell everyone that their "intranet" was the internet.. it used to take an act of god to actually find the internet in their early versions.. :D My parents used to love it, until I showed them they actually hadn't gotten onto the internet yet, they were in AOL's internal browser and sites, never leaving AOL..

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:18 pm
by Eraser
glossy wrote:Well ISPs can choose to serve or block any pages they like. It's their rights as a service provider. I doubt anywhere in the Time Warner contract it says "We will always allow you access to all of the internet" -- more likely: "We reserve the right to suspent or limit connectivity without notice at any time"
That's only applicable in the case of something illegal happening. In this case, (I assume) nothing illegal was happening. The claim of hate mongering should be decided by a judge, not AOL Time Warner.

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:48 pm
by glossy
Eraser wrote:
glossy wrote:Well ISPs can choose to serve or block any pages they like. It's their rights as a service provider. I doubt anywhere in the Time Warner contract it says "We will always allow you access to all of the internet" -- more likely: "We reserve the right to suspent or limit connectivity without notice at any time"
That's only applicable in the case of something illegal happening. In this case, (I assume) nothing illegal was happening. The claim of hate mongering should be decided by a judge, not AOL Time Warner.
My point isn't to the fact that the site was mislabelled as a hate site, but to the fact that (afaik) service providers of most kinds will include clauses in the contracts entered between them and the customer/consumer that state that they can suspend, limit, or do whatever they like with the service they provide.

Any store has the right to not sell you something, and they don't need a reason. This really isn't much different.

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:58 pm
by Duhard
I am the man.

discuss.

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:08 pm
by seremtan
well i can't get thru to prisonplanet, and i used to be able to (not that i ever did more than once in 6 months)

an assault on the the freedom of the internet isn't surprising. it's the one medium for the free exchange of ideas etc across large distances; if those ideas are threatening to the business status quo, of which ISPs are a part, they'll dream up some spurious means of shutting them off somehow

revolution time?

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:26 pm
by DiscoDave
blah blah blah

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:53 pm
by Nightshade
Retard much?

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:53 pm
by Geebs
What, they fucked up their own servers and it's suddenly the republican right multinational industrial military complex's fault? Hmmm

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:03 pm
by R00k
No, it is a monetary feud between top-level networks that is causing the problem, and it's not just Alex Jones who's affected - he's just the only one immediately screaming 'censorship conspiracy' about it without doing any research.

http://news.com.com/Network%20feud%20le ... &subj=news

edit:

http://www.broadbandreports.com/shownews/68174

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:11 pm
by Dave
haha.. poor alex. no one cares enough about his rantings to take him seriously and shut him down.

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:12 pm
by Dave
heh.. i dont know if this will post, but:

Image

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:26 pm
by R00k
Nah, just a BBReports placeholder pic.