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The Aussies have joined the fight
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:56 am
by chiQ
http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/c ... 20421.html
Now we just need the console manufacturers and publishers to catch on. Australasian prices are mad, and regional coding is of the arse.
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:58 am
by Foo
It's about time other countries ruled the same. Modchips are illegal in the UK right now, and that's just plain wrong.
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:10 am
by chiQ
There's something in New Zealand called the Consumers' Guarantee Act, which ensures that in New Zealand a consumer may make any reasonable use, as may be expected from a product specification, of something they buy.
This protects our right to alter electronics equipment so that we can play the media it's generally designed to play, or to get full use from its components, i.e. we can crack games hardware to fully utilise its capabilities, and no manufacturer limitations as they apply elsewhere can be brought to bear.
DVD regions, games regions, limited access to the XBox hard drive, etc. are pretty much an open book here. I think that should apply everywhere, and see this Australian legal precedent as protection of the rights of Australians as New Zealanders are protected where games lock-downs are concerned.
w00t!
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:13 am
by [FTF]Pyro
Regional coding and such things like that are to protect the copyright infringments of companies trading within certain boundries.......
You are all aware of course that this is purely for financial gain of corporations as regional dividing = less taxes
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:13 am
by Canis
There's too much control over where media can be seen and played, etc. I think if you buy a DVD in one country and move to another country you should be able to see both of them. Its BS to have a limit on how many times you can change the region, or not be able to change the region at all...
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:30 am
by MKJ
hi chiq !
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:45 am
by glossy
chiQ wrote:There's something in New Zealand called the Consumers' Guarantee Act, which ensures that in New Zealand a consumer may make any reasonable use, as may be expected from a product specification, of something they buy.
This protects our right to alter electronics equipment so that we can play the media it's generally designed to play, or to get full use from its components, i.e. we can crack games hardware to fully utilise its capabilities, and no manufacturer limitations as they apply elsewhere can be brought to bear.
DVD regions, games regions, limited access to the XBox hard drive, etc. are pretty much an open book here. I think that should apply everywhere, and see this Australian legal precedent as protection of the rights of Australians as New Zealanders are protected where games lock-downs are concerned.
w00t!
Christ, you're a New Zealander? *spit*
back on topic, I truly can't see any sensible reason why modding consoles should be illegal. Honestly, you paid for the physical console, and it's yours. You own it. Unlike software, where you pay for a licence to essentially 'borrow' their bits-and-bytes, you paid for it. There's no borrowing or licencing going on, and they will only replace things that
they fucked up (warranty) for a failure time of a year from purchase, if at all.
stupid laws :\
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:49 am
by Denz
Hi Milla, glad to see you here. :icon14:
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:38 pm
by seremtan
chiQ wrote:There's something in New Zealand called the Consumers' Guarantee Act, which ensures that in New Zealand a consumer may make any reasonable use, as may be expected from a product specification, of something they buy.
This protects our right to alter electronics equipment so that we can play the media it's generally designed to play, or to get full use from its components, i.e. we can crack games hardware to fully utilise its capabilities, and no manufacturer limitations as they apply elsewhere can be brought to bear.
DVD regions, games regions, limited access to the XBox hard drive, etc. are pretty much an open book here. I think that should apply everywhere, and see this Australian legal precedent as protection of the rights of Australians as New Zealanders are protected where games lock-downs are concerned.
w00t!
lol, choice. i didn't know about that
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:39 pm
by seremtan
glossy wrote:Christ, you're a New Zealander? *spit*
a homo says what?
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:43 pm
by Eraser
glossy wrote:
Christ, you're a New Zealander? *spit*
back on topic, I truly can't see any sensible reason why modding consoles should be illegal. Honestly, you paid for the physical console, and it's yours. You own it. Unlike software, where you pay for a licence to essentially 'borrow' their bits-and-bytes, you paid for it. There's no borrowing or licencing going on, and they will only replace things that they fucked up (warranty) for a failure time of a year from purchase, if at all.
stupid laws :\
I don't see why there's region lockdowns as well, but I think the main concern of console manufacturers is that modchips also allow you to play copied games.
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:54 pm
by glossy
Eraser wrote:glossy wrote:
Christ, you're a New Zealander? *spit*
back on topic, I truly can't see any sensible reason why modding consoles should be illegal. Honestly, you paid for the physical console, and it's yours. You own it. Unlike software, where you pay for a licence to essentially 'borrow' their bits-and-bytes, you paid for it. There's no borrowing or licencing going on, and they will only replace things that they fucked up (warranty) for a failure time of a year from purchase, if at all.
stupid laws :\
I don't see why there's region lockdowns as well, but I think the main concern of console manufacturers is that modchips also allow you to play copied games.
i understand the concern, i don't understand why it should be illegal.
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:55 pm
by glossy
seremtan wrote:glossy wrote:Christ, you're a New Zealander? *spit*
a homo says what?
Fush un chups much?
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:37 pm
by seremtan
chuck sum feesh'n'cheeps on the barby, cobber, an' stone the bleedin' crows while you're at it, blue
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 5:28 pm
by chiQ
Meh, I like the Aussies (except JH, who is a chum-gargler). Fush and chups are yum. They're better at cricket than us. Who cares?
Yes, regional lock-downs suck, yes, the company line is it's to protect release control and against piracy, and no that doesn't carry much water.
I'm just glad Australia doesn't have to put up with the shit the Americans and others do now. It rocks to be able to modify your own toys, and there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to.
Both our DNS/web/etc. servers are XBoxes. We have at least four (it varies) right now, and they rock. I'd hate to lose the right to have them.