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Interesting development in hydrogen storage

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:07 pm
by Nightshade
Developed by Danish scientists, suprisingly they're NOT storing it in a pastry. I was as shocked as you.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 102549.htm

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:45 pm
by Canidae
Sounds better than the hydrate methods used now that are slow and require a lot of heat insertion and removal.
I wonder how long it will be before you can buy this pill at a rave?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:01 pm
by seremtan
that's awesome. i've been storing my hydrogen in cardboard boxes in the attic so this is a real boon.

btw last i heard (it was on here iirc) the hydrogen economy was a mirage. so does this change things dramatically?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:04 pm
by seremtan
Image

und den vee crumble de hash into de rizla... :olo:

Re: Interesting development in hydrogen storage

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:30 pm
by Don Carlos
Nightshade wrote:suprisingly they're NOT storing it in a pastry. I was as shocked as you.
:icon30: :icon26:

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:34 pm
by hate
old

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:01 pm
by Nightshade
seremtan wrote:
btw last i heard (it was on here iirc) the hydrogen economy was a mirage. so does this change things dramatically?
I don't believe so. The thing that most tree-huggers don't want to admit is that the generation of hydrogen(at this point) is still very much petroleum-dependent.
It does seem to solve the very tricky storage problem, though. Albeit with no frosting.

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:04 pm
by neh
Nightshade wrote:
seremtan wrote:
btw last i heard (it was on here iirc) the hydrogen economy was a mirage. so does this change things dramatically?
I don't believe so. The thing that most tree-huggers don't want to admit is that the generation of hydrogen(at this point) is still very much petroleum-dependent.
It does seem to solve the very tricky storage problem, though. Albeit with no frosting.
currently isnt pretty much all alternate mobile energy still in its origin from fossil fuels - just differs the problems - though in cars it does solve the particulates problems

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:07 pm
by Canidae
hate wrote:old
Yes, because the Anastasi Indians built their spaceships using this and left earth? :dork:

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:14 pm
by seremtan
yeah, and they took their danish pastries with them the tightfisted redskins

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:08 pm
by Transient
seremtan wrote:btw last i heard (it was on here iirc) the hydrogen economy was a mirage. so does this change things dramatically?
That's what I heard in a documentary I watched recently about the end of suburbia (i.e. fossil fuel goes bye-bye). They only briefly mentioned it, but they said that hydrogen requires fossil fuels to compress. From what I gather from the article, you still need fossil fuels to compress the solid form of hydrogen. This just makes it safer and, I think, more compressed.

I would still like to see how a gas tank full of it holds up against a head-on collision from a giant block of steel and fire going 35 Km/h.

BTW, how safe is ammonia? Since they're using that for storage now. And what effects will it have on the environment? I can't tell if when the fuel is spent, the ammonia is released. :paranoid:

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:36 pm
by Nightshade
Actually, I think this may resolve the petroleum dependency. Since it's using ammonia as the hydrogen source, I guess that's pretty much that. Ammonia's nasty stuff, but in this reaction, it gets broken down.

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:01 pm
by Guest
Yeah that's awsome, now all I need to make a bomb is a some amonia, a squirt gun and a lighter! YAY!!!!

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:01 pm
by Guest
Not that I couldn't do that with gasoline but this is portable people!!

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:19 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
Kracus, you are a bomb.