hatepop wrote:Controllers DO NOT drag down Quake games.
you are clearly not good at quake 3... the fact you even think a controller player could even compete with a keyboard/mouse player in q3 is clearly a indicator of this fact... or maybe you have never played any good opponents? you do know the depth of the q3 movement physics right?
but anyway meh, i could not care less what you think tbh.. why am i even typing this....
I don't think he actually said a controller player could outmatch a k/m player. He was simply stating the game itself is not dragged down (any less fun) with a controller.
Possibly, but he also can't get it through to his thick skull that to absolutely be the best of the best at playing Quake 3, you need a mouse and keyboard. A player with a gamepad controller will have his ass handed to him by a keyboard/mouse player time and time again.
xer0s wrote:I'm considering putting beanyuh on my ignore list...
Been doing same lately - and i have never ignored anyone before... but peenyuh is just completely, utterly useless. Everything he posts you'd be better off not reading.
That's all you got fer this thread? Seriously?
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Played it as well. Aiming is hard indeed. Controlling with the XBox controller just feels very limited. The whole discussion that has been going on here is a valid one and I do think that playing Quake 3 with KB/M is more fun than an XBox controller. Why? Because the gameplay demands it. Quake is about lightning fast reflexes and slick, creative movement, which is something you can never achieve with an XBox controller (strafejumping is possible though). Sure, it's still somewhat fun to play, but when you've played this game with KB/M for 10+ years, switching to a controller feels very, very awkward.
Graphically the game looks almost the same, except for some added bloom effects to stuff that should light up and items and such. The maps themselves have some added detail (geometry) here and there as well, but that could be a 1-on-1 copy of the Quake Live versions of the maps (haven't ever played q3dm1, q3dm2 and q3dm3 on Quake Live tbh).
Contentwise it's the stock Quake 3 batch of maps including a few Team Arena ones. Some of the base Q3 maps seem to be missing (I don't thing I've seen maps like q3tourney3, q3tourney5 or q3dm10 in the list). They also added a bunch of new maps which I assume Pi Studios made themselves, but to be honest, at a first glance, they look terrible. The single one I've actually played ("The Ankh") had some crappy gameplay as well. All of the Q3 and TA player models are there, including the Quake Live style brightskins.
The single player is split up in practice (skirmish) and a campaign mode, which is basically like the original Q3's SP mode. They've thrown a few challenges into the mix to spice things up, but so far (which isn't very far, Tier 1 maps only) I've only seen timelimit based games as challenges.
The game features the basic Quake 3 and Team Arena gametypes (FFA, TDM, Tourney, CTF, 1 flag CTF, Overload, Harvester) but nothing more. Feels to me like they could've included a Rocket Arena/Clan Arena or Freeze Tag mode as well, but oh well.
I've played only one game of multiplayer and yes, Quake Arena Arcade uses a peer2peer system as well. So there's one host and if he quits, the entire game is gone. That single game was laggy as fuck for me even though the connection indicator showed 4 green bars (best connection available) and the host did quit so it was all for nothing in the end.
If you're an avid Quake Live player, stick to that and forget about Quake Arena Arcade. Seriously, it adds nothing new to the mix and playing this game with an XBox controller is just crap. Yes, I'm looking at you hatepop. It's C-R-A-P.
Is it worth 1200 MSP? Considering that Quake Live exists, for anyone with a half-decent PC, no, probably not. If you're a complete Quake 3 nut though, well, sure, get it. I know I did, and I'll probably play it a bit but I think I'll forget about it again quite soon because Quake Live is infinitely better.
played it for a bit, i might get it once its deal of the week.
the challenges are a nice touch but indeed so far its only timelimit. might be cool if there was some stuff in there that gives you only the plasma while your enemies have everything. also, fuck this game for determining the max # players for me when hosting. jeez.
schooling the nubs online was fun tho.
xer0s wrote:Eraser, Emka, did you guys change the control scheme at all? I'm trying to figure out what I like best.
Nope, haven't changed a thing yet. But I'm thinking of switching the X and Y buttons (prev and next weapon resp) because I keep hitting X expecting to switch to the next weapon while it switches to previous. I also find myself pressing A far too often expecting to jump, while LT is used for that. Dunno why, something is wired up in my brain to make me do that, so I might just change the control scheme to fit my brain.
I havent changed the scheme either. while i also expect A to jump ( I think Halo has it mapped to jump) I was able to adapt quickly enough.
not liking the next/prev weap buttons where they are, I expect them to be RB/LB.
180 turn button is disorienting, I avoid it (and dont need it either)
