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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:04 pm
by SplishSplash
riddla wrote:
SplishSplash wrote:A good mobile phone you can use blindfolded. Try that with our iPhone/Treo/Blackberry.
I do every day with my treo. Its called voice dialing.
Haha you fucking spanner :olo:

"CHAINS!"
"doot doot doot Did you mean Frisbee?"

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:06 pm
by Jackal
I'm inclined to agree with Splish for right now.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:30 pm
by plained
actually applepones functionality would have greatly benefit'ed had they used sonys scroll/click thumbwheel tech in addition to the touch interface

so far i find that those clie's were well ahead of thier time

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:34 pm
by Grudge
SplishSplash wrote:
Grudge wrote:You are obviously not the target group for the iPhone. You want a small, regular phone to make phonecalls with, fine, go buy a regular Nokia or a SonyEricsson or whatever.

The iPhone is something else. It's a convergence device with a touch interface, it's not a standard mobile phone, so don't compare it to one.

Oh, and until you have tried the actual touch interface just STFU about how bad it is. You have no idea.

And it has EDGE, which enables fast data rate, the only thing you really need 3G for is to make video calls, and we all know how often you do that.
Sorry for insulting your convergence device, you obviously have a lot of experience with it and with touchscreens, so you are completely right in telling me to shut up about them. After all Mr. Jobs must have put an awful lot of Innovation Power into this phone with it's awesome new features like text messaging and Starbuck prank calls and no 3G and non-exchangable batteries (which is good because that wasn't a problem with the iPod at all) and I was killing innovation by phantasizing about how touch screens weren't so useful in the past.

It's not like I ever used a phone with a touchscreen or anything and would know that they are an absolute pain to use whenever you want to do something quickly.

I wish you a successful convergence experience, and you're welcome to borrow my phone anytime your battery runs low because you were busy converging a new Big Brother episode on your device.

Yes, I do actually have quite a bit of experience with touch screens because I work as an interaction designer at a company that works with two of the top mobile phone manufacturers as well as several third party mobile developers.

I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand that the segment that the iPhone fits into is not the same segment that you are talking about (small, dedicated mobile phones). The iPhone fits in somewhere between a handheld computer and a smartphone, which puts different demands on the form factor and the interaction devices.

Plus, all touch interfaces used today are stylus based - this one is finger based, plus it features multi-touch functionality AND has a screen that is twice as large as any device on the market today. This means that you can't really compare it to any existing devices until you've actually tried it. And thinking of Apple's track record when it comes to user interfaces, I'd actually give them the benefit of the doubt until I've tried it myself.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:40 pm
by SplishSplash
Grudge wrote:I'd actually give them the benefit of the doubt until I've tried it myself.
I think I did with this post
Maybe this will be the first phone with a usable touchscreen, but I really, really doubt it.
but you told me to shut the fuck up because you're in love with Steve.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:49 pm
by Grudge
I don't own any Apple products.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:53 pm
by SplishSplash
Yeah right.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:55 pm
by Grudge
Don't project your homoerotic fantasies on me.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:56 pm
by MKJ
SplishSplash wrote:Yeah right.
:olo:

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:07 pm
by SplishSplash
And we all know you're pretty fat for the average American, and that's something.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:30 pm
by Doombrain
riddla and his "weak" comeback. move on fatty, it sucks as hard as disk+chains does at being a sport

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:04 pm
by Nightshade
I'm still waiting for a phone/PDA/mp3 player in one. I don't see using the internet connectivity of the iPhone, but that could change. It would really depend on how much it would cost. That's what pisses me off about all these extra services. FFS, I pay enough for the phone already, bundle that shit, yo.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:39 pm
by SplishSplash
Pretty much every new phone on the market has an mp3 player built in by now and a lot of them sync with outlook if you just want it to remind you of stuff.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:52 pm
by Iccy
Grudge wrote: * No Exchange or Office support.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the- ... martphone/

No exchange support sucks, I don't care about a crappy Yahoo account, I want to be able to sync with my work mail and calendar.
Actualy it does support exchange, jobs says so right in the keynote.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:53 pm
by Grudge
Oh? That's good news then.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:55 pm
by Dave
I think an all touch UI sucks because there's no tactile feel to make using it without looking much harder. I think the touch screen multi-touch feature will be excellent after using Apple's two finger scrolling mouse pad... It's the same concept.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:05 pm
by Iccy
Dave wrote:I think an all touch UI sucks because there's no tactile feel to make using it without looking much harder. I think the touch screen multi-touch feature will be excellent after using Apple's two finger scrolling mouse pad... It's the same concept.
I think the tactile feel will come from the shape of it. When you hold it in your hands it will always be in the same place right? Wont that just be a matter of muscle memory training at that point? I know when i type on my KB its not tactile at all, its position memory.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:07 pm
by plained
two handed number and schedule access?

bla :down: thats right cavemanish

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:20 pm
by Geebs
I think I've lost count of the number of times I've changed the battery in my phone.... oh, that's right, none.

I actually think it's a bit of a waste of time making it into an iPod - the other features are far more interesting.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:25 pm
by Doombrain
lok. i'll be getting one and so will 70% of you

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:31 pm
by AmIdYfReAk
Image

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:54 pm
by Doombrain
Image

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 6:58 pm
by Foo
Doombrain wrote:lok. i'll be getting one and so will 70% of you
I'm one of those people whereby this very fact will keep me from purchasing one. Despite thinking that it looks very pimp.

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:15 pm
by Doombrain
you mean the price

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:45 pm
by dzjepp
hahaha