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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:17 pm
by werldhed
Btw, geoff, I just wanted to make sure you noticed this part of the NORML article:
McKim warns that marijuana disrupts memory and cognition. "These effects can be long-lasting after heavy use," he said. "This makes it difficult to succeed academically if you use it excessively."
So cannabinoids cause brain growth without making you smarter. Your wife's in helthcare, right? What does she think of this? Since she is reading along, as you say.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:26 pm
by Freakaloin
Canis wrote:
Freakaloin wrote:
Canis wrote:I havent given a shit about him or what he's said for quite some time now, so I'm not about to start.
still talking about me eh? u must be in love...

CRUSHED...next...
Well now that you said it, god damn I think I AM crushed...completely crushed! I just dont know what to say...
say "i love u geoff...can i catch?"...

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:32 pm
by shadd_
werldhed wrote:
shadd_ wrote:
Canis wrote: If its not yet apparent, I'm giving him shit.
yeah i realize that. when the impossible happens and he brings up a good point. acknowledge it.
Except he didn't bring up a good point. It's fairly common knowledge that pot has less physical negative effects than tobacco, and I'm not opposed to reforming pot laws. However, using a vaporizer won't negate the cancerous effects of THC. At least not those mentioned in the article.
so there is no harm reduction using a vaporizer instead of pipes, joints, etc?

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:33 pm
by hate
post pics

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:35 pm
by Canis
Freakaloin wrote:
Canis wrote:
Freakaloin wrote: still talking about me eh? u must be in love...

CRUSHED...next...
Well now that you said it, god damn I think I AM crushed...completely crushed! I just dont know what to say...
say "i love u geoff...can i catch?"...
Like I said previously, its so incredibly pathetic its comical. :olo:

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:38 pm
by werldhed
shadd_ wrote:
werldhed wrote:
shadd_ wrote: yeah i realize that. when the impossible happens and he brings up a good point. acknowledge it.
Except he didn't bring up a good point. It's fairly common knowledge that pot has less physical negative effects than tobacco, and I'm not opposed to reforming pot laws. However, using a vaporizer won't negate the cancerous effects of THC. At least not those mentioned in the article.
so there is no harm reduction using a vaporizer instead of pipes, joints, etc?
Oh, I'm sure using a vapo is much better than inhaling smoke into your lungs, so it's probably healthier for your respiratory system. I was just pointing out that the study that Freakaloin thinks proves that pot makes you smarter actually doesn't show that at all. In fact, from my point of view, cannabinoids seem to point to signs of cancer in the brain. Thus, in that case it doesn't matter how the THC gets to your brain, so a vapo wouldn't change the effects shown in that particular study.

If we were talking about cancer from the smoke, then that would be a different case. But if THC itself is a carcinogen, than a vapo won't change that.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:47 pm
by Freakaloin
what proof do u have that pot causes brain cancer? just a feeling u have? and the title of the thread was a joke moron...jesus lots of morons hang out round here...

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:50 pm
by Scourge
And you're their king.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:51 pm
by shadd_
considering results can be obtained with synthetic thc it definately deserves a closer look.

i would like to see the same study done with a chronic users estimated thc intake instead of a powerful synthetic substance.

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:40 pm
by Geebs
shadd_ wrote:
Canis wrote::olo: !!!!
every combustable material on the planet releases harmful toxins when burned.
Hydrogen doesn't.....unless you burn too much of it and drown :D

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:46 pm
by Geebs
werldhed wrote: It's fairly common knowledge that pot has less physical negative effects than tobacco,
Considering 1 in 3 smokers die of a smoking-related illness, that's not saying much :D

Then again, from a health point of view there's not any reason to think that it's any worse than smoking or drinking excesssively

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:29 am
by werldhed
Freakaloin wrote:what proof do u have that pot causes brain cancer? just a feeling u have? and the title of the thread was a joke moron...jesus lots of morons hang out round here...
I just told you. It's not proof that smoking pot will give you cancer -- it's proof that a synthetic version of THC causes undifferentiated growth in the brain, through a known cancer pathway. And if the title was a joke, why get so huffy when I call you on it?

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:24 am
by Freakaloin
moron alert!!!...

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:07 am
by losCHUNK
but it doesnt stop you from being a dick

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:57 am
by seremtan
just be thankful geoff isn't an alcoholic instead

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:51 am
by Duhard
werldhed wrote:McKim warns that marijuana disrupts memory and cognition. "These effects can be long-lasting after heavy use," he said. "This makes it difficult to succeed academically if you use it excessively."
hmmm that would explain why I needed 9 years of college to finish the program..but it made me smarter and much more handsome than I was before experiencing weed..and my sex life has gone through the roof..damn it's great to be a pot smoker..jellus?!!?

and to all y'all morons drinking alcohol like water and pretending weed is evil..well you morons are fucking delusional..you can smoke lots of weed and still lift weights like a fucking god..try drinking lots of alcohol before a workout and you'll understand why I'm such a fucking adonis..

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:45 am
by mrd
I've always thought of pot as something that fucks up your mental activity while alcohol wrecks your body.

Maybe I'm just more susceptible to pot than most people, but if I ever smoke it more than once or twice a week, I can notice pretty big differences in myself... namely, I keep forgetting what word I'm looking for, I can't fuckin' talk properly or write properly...

It's lame. But I usually only blaze for a trippy sex experience or to listen to music heh.

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:53 am
by Guest
I've noticed a few people say that but I don't have that problem at all in fact I'd say it's the opposite effect where I'll just zone into what I'm doing and do it better than I normaly would like playing a video game as an example.

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:47 am
by [xeno]Julios
From my own observations, if used with wisdom, pot can enhance your cognitive performance.

here's an interesting essay by Carl Sagan:

http://www.marijuana-uses.com/essays/002.html

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:46 pm
by Duhard
it has been proven again and again that if you don't smoke weed then you're a moron..

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:56 pm
by Freakaloin
Duhard wrote:it has been proven again and again that if you don't smoke weed then you're a moron..
this is 100% verifible and correct...questions?...

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:16 pm
by losCHUNK
just 1, how do you know this

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:17 pm
by Freakaloin
losCHUNK wrote:just 1, how do you know this
moron alert???...

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:18 pm
by losCHUNK
how do you know that ?

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:19 pm
by Freakaloin
i don't...it was a question...