Quake3World

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Looks great AndyW!

Indeed!

Haha cool stuff Eraser, I'm working on a was myself, I'll link it when I get home. Mine is running on gzdoom because if the cool entity based lighting

I'm sticking to zDoom and only its original Doom functionality. I realize there's a lot of stuff you can do with modded engines. zDoom for instance allows sloped floors/ceilings and some lighting tricks as well (colored lights for instance). I am very consciously putting these limitations on myself because otherwise it's becoming a sliding scale where I'd end up building something like shown in the Q3/Doom mashup video and I explicitly do not want that. If I'd wanted that I'd boot up GtkRadiant and build an EntityPlus map

Building a full 32 map WAD seems a bit like a daunting task though. It's taking far longer to build a single level than I thought it woukd (having done 2 so far) and already it's very apparent I'm going to have to do a lot of difficulty level balancing.

Why haven't I found this site before, it's amazing so talented people are still mapping for Q3 engine and even some of my mapping idols are here
I'm currently working on my biggest project yet visually but now that I bumped into q3map_fs_20g , it might the way I wanted the map to be, eventhough I doubt it will work as I cant get it to work properly (Max_shaders hit with fs20)
(Very bright outside walls, but darker shadows)

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The map is a remake from scratch of the Battlefield 3 Ziba Tower
More pics here: http://imgur.com/a/n9lF6

It's for Soldier of Fortune II - Double Helix, not really Quake3 but its the somewhat the same engine

looks really nice, but havent there been swimming pools on the side with the wood floor? Its a shame that you cant add the destructibility. Thats what made the map really fun.

SoF2 was awesome. Played that quite a bit on LAN parties.

Hey sof2, yea, that's great and we actually still play that in lan at work, so if you need your level tested =D

@Dangel, do you mean at the bottom of the picture where the wood would go to the pool? There's actually a pool there but it's not visible here ^^
@Hipshot, that would be great !

I'm currently trying to add as much props as possible for this evening (19 GMT) as there's a server thats gonna put my map online.
They try new maps every saturday evening with a bunch of folks. Would be cool if you guys joined in. ( <HoP> Clan Night Server ).

I would really appreciate if any of you could check out my .map to see what could be done better and optimized, aswell as my shader. I've got some experience in mapping but I'm not quite good at those 2 . And perhaps help me out getting my walls outside very bright like almost blinding but darker in shadows?

I'm currently using this to compile

[spoiler]-bsp -meta -samplesize 16 -v -rename
-vis -v -saveprt
-light -patchshadows -fast -dirty -dirtscale 1 -dirtdepth 16 -samples 6 -gamma 2.5 -compensate 1 -v -threads 2

q3map_lightmapFilterRadius 0 8
q3map_sunExt 1 1 1 500 160 45 3 32
q3map_skyLight 200 6

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Yes i meant the bottom of the picture. I played the map alot in bf3 and was confused when i didnt see a swimming pool there

Ambient will immediately kill all dark shadows. Ambient adjusts the contrast of the lightmap by cranking up the low values. If high contrast is the look you're going for, I would avoid using it.

For high contrast between light and shadow, you want a strong primary source (sun), and a weak secondary source (sky's radiosity). You control this with q3map_sunExt's intensity value (set relatively higher), and q3map_skyLight's amount value (set relatively lower). You're sun's pretty bright, so try lowering the skyLight amount, try something like 50.

Note: skyLight's iterations value is exponential, so a value of 6 is quite high and will take a long time to compile with little benefit. I would use a lower value at the very least to test with, and if you feel is necessary, use a higher value for a final compile. Less hairs pulled.

The other stuff that will affect contrast is -gamma and -compensate. To start, I would leave both switches out until you can get the approximate look that you want with your sky shader first. I think the look you're going for involves overbright values, you probably want to bump things gently by increasing -gamma and optionally with a low -compensate value. I'm not even sure if SoF2 uses r_overbrightbits.

Oh, and why aren't you using -bounce? That will probably help with the indoor lighting.

Did someone say Doom?



These maps are up to 20 Years old.
I made about 12 Doom2 maps but never released any of them over the internet.
The last shot shows a deathmatch map and is also the base of 13simple (http://sst13.de/pics/simple3.jpg)

Eraser wrote:Building a full 32 map WAD seems a bit like a daunting task though.

I tried the same but got stuck after 9 maps. Let me know if you need some material.

AndyW wrote:@Eraser: Cool!
Its a bit strange to go back to a "non-polygon" engine -isn't it? Id played around with DEU & DeeP back in the 90´s (D3D Build too) and then there was Quake 2...

DEU - brings back fond memories.

@obsidian, thanks for that , it really refreshed my knowledge of it.

Here's my latest beta version of Ziba Tower remake for SoF2. Let me know if you find any bugs, or would do things differently

If you want to take a look at the .map, pm me

https://www.dropbox.com/s/t6p2nv69j4ut2 ... a.pk3?dl=0

A little bit of a more obscure character model, Fayt from the game "Star Ocean 3"

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Amazing modelling work.

Here's that wad I'm working on for Doom 2. It also requires GZdoom.

http://forum.drdteam.org/viewforum.php?f=23 - GZdoom

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6700tdk1no45k ... 1.wad?dl=0 - My wad

The second map has no exit yet.

Enjoy

Holy crap, if you're planning on filling an entire WAD with maps like that then you'll probably never end up finishing it. I only played (part of) the first map and it is huge! Also, it's really, really hard. Running into pretty much the whole array of Doom monsters in the first map with only 20 shotgun shells in your pocket gets a bit hairy

@Bacon: Wow, especially for the face and hair!

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Apparently I cannot make a new thread. So I'll do it here, when I compile my same map as seen in the previous pic with FS_20G, I get WARNING: GeneratePermanentShader - MAX_SHADERS hit, and I get missing textures ingame. Is it because it isnt meant to work for SOF2 or ? Q3MAP2 2.5.16 works fine

http://puu.sh/noTvm/0fa2ed5145.jpg

Any reason why you can't work with Q3map 2516?

@KENNITHH Maybe this will help, found it via google: http://forums.warchest.com/showthread.p ... HADERS-hit
4th post -from ydnar. Im sorry that i cant help you with your problem but maybe the link will help you to get back on the road!

@Hipshot, mainly because I read the compiler improves the use of ASE models somehow and I'm all in for that as I always wanted to make some kind of forest like the CODUO maps (first level of SP). And as a mapper I like to try around with commands. In this case floodlight and exposure. If I knew it had more cmds, even better.

@AndyW, well I feel dumb now, I usually find anything I want on google but this I did not, perhaps I read it, I dont remember but its just weird it works just fine with 2.5.16 and not FS20G. Cheers

EDIT: Well that didn't work (_lightmapscale 4)