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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:50 pm
by dzjepp
I will probably upgrade to Vista when it ships, next year I'll prolly build a new machine from scratch. When XP rolled around in 2001, I didn't see much use for an upgrade, so I was still using 98 SE for a good year or so. But once I finally did the clean install, I noticed XP Pro was much much better than 98. XP SP2 is stable (I probably seen it crash a handful of times in the 3 years since).

With Vista I think it would be logical for most users that purchase new machines so they can take advantage of the cleaner code (Server 2003 SP1) and generally be able to uprade in minutes and not worry about old patches and hotfixes. And hopefully software compatibility will be strong out of the box since MS has released their tentitive sdk packages for many of the new technology enhancements, available under XP right now.

Vista features so far, and by the time the retail roll out, many of these will be refined and a ton more should be added.

http://weakmind.org/upload/files/LonghornFeatures.html

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:56 pm
by R00k
I'll probably get it shortly after release and upgrade my XP box with it. This is the first time I've really been looking forward to an OS in a long time.

It is a shame that WinFS was dropped, but I'll be satisfied if I get it in a later service pack.

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:59 pm
by +JuggerNaut+
diego wrote:I'm so glad they still got that great windows-firewall in it!!!
I know they probably improved it, so I'm just bitching, don't mind me.
what's the problem? for retards, it works just fine. if you're more technically inclined, you know what to get whether it's a hardware or software firewall.

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:33 pm
by R00k
So is it pretty easy to turn off the windows firewall in Vista?

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:35 pm
by +JuggerNaut+
R00k wrote:So is it pretty easy to turn off the windows firewall in Vista?
why wouldn't it be? it's easy to do in XP.

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:41 pm
by rep
Geebs wrote:
rep wrote:You can connect more than one IP to the same PC... It's strange, but logical. If you have fast internet such as cable, and multiple IP addresses, usually the cable company (since Docsis2.0 and 3.0 modems have an incredible throughput anyway) limits your bandwidth per IP... This is why if you have 4 IP addresses, each can possibly be downloading at the full 7MB/s speed because it's not 7MB/s divided by 4, it's 4 individual allowances of 7MB/s. I think my modem gets 40MB/s or a little higher. I'll have to check sometime.
I'm sure the cable companies will figure out some way to block this.
Why? It would be the same thing as having all four PCs up and downloading at the same time.

As far as the Windows Firewall goes, it's great. The average consumer (Read: Your gifted friend who buys the most expensive video card even though you told them the one $120 cheaper performs better) Doesn't care about firewalls... If XP SP2 and Vista have it enabled to begin with, that half way protects them...

So in turn, viruses, trojans, and script kiddies that aren't all that great but would be able to easily slip into an unprotected system wouldn't get beyond that, albeit poor, protection.

Let people like us worry about hardware firewalls... We're the ones with the fastest connections and best computers so obviously we're the biggest threat anyway. What would do more damage, a DDoS attack from a bunch of broadband PCs, or a DDoS attack from a cluster of 56K jalopies in Wisconsin?

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:02 pm
by Keep It Real
rep wrote:What a tool.

"Man, these widgets are innovative and revolutionary. Thanks Apple.

Hey, what's this Vista? Fucking Microsoft stealing other people's ideas!" - JerkOff Apple Fan Named Dave (JOAFND)
You have strong emotions over web browsers and operating systems :lol: :lol:

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:13 pm
by R00k
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
R00k wrote:So is it pretty easy to turn off the windows firewall in Vista?
why wouldn't it be? it's easy to do in XP.
It's also easy to download patches on a pirated copy of XP, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will be in Vista. :smirk: