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Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:13 am
by SOAPboy
Transient wrote:How long until a kid just takes a gun from a teacher who improperly stores it and shoots up a class?
A Week if the recent shooting trend is anything to go by.
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:49 am
by Eraser
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:47 am
by MKJ
SOAPboy wrote:Transient wrote:How long until a kid just takes a gun from a teacher who improperly stores it and shoots up a class?
A Week if the recent shooting trend is anything to go by.
lol
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:56 pm
by Don Carlos
SOAPboy wrote:Transient wrote:How long until a kid just takes a gun from a teacher who improperly stores it and shoots up a class?
A Week if the recent shooting trend is anything to go by.
Ha! Sad but true.
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:17 pm
by MKJ
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Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:47 pm
by Doombrain
Trumps blaming videos games.
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 9:35 pm
by vesp
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-43158994
The NRA have Trump (and the US congress) in their pockets.
This event won't have any bearing on gun laws in the US, and neither will any of the mass school shootings still to come.
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:01 pm
by seremtan
Doombrain wrote:Trumps blaming videos games.
the Jack Thompson Manoeuvre
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 1:30 am
by Transient
So it turns out there was an armed officer stationed at the school. He heard gunshots and did fuckall.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... ce-officer
According to Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel, that’s exactly what happened at the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting. Even with training and a weapon, the officer stalled — and allowed the shooting to continue for about four to six minutes as he stood outside the building. The deputy, Scot Peterson, has since quit.
“Devastated. Sick to my stomach. There are no words. These families lost their children. We lost coaches. I’ve been to the funerals,” Israel said at a press conference on Thursday. Asked what the officer should have done, Israel responded, “Went in. Addressed the killer. Killed the killer.”
This is more than just another horrific detail about the mass shooting that killed 17 people; it also directly contradicts the notion that simply putting a bunch of armed personnel in schools will stop shooters — the “good guy with a gun” theory.
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:50 am
by SOAPboy
Yeah. Said that.
SOAPboy wrote:
That school, Had an armed guard. He "never encountered the shooter", AKA he hid in a fuckin closet like a pussy.
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:54 am
by MKJ
But armed personnel on the scene responds faster than police officers!
Fake news!
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:28 am
by Doombrain
Pistol vs. AR15. Too fucking right he hid.
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:48 am
by vesp
Aye - an armed Deputy. Trained presumably not just to fire his weapon, but also how to use it against someone.. and still he chokes.
So how is arming up teachers going to do anything at all - maybe it's different in the US and all primary/secondary teachers are action heroes? (Do Americans think Kindergarten Cop is a documentary?)
Or maybe "Armed Response" becomes part of the syllabus for teacher training in the US. Jesus.
I'm already horrified at the idea that US schools regularly drill lock-downs and evacuations. We do a fire drill maybe twice a year.
We all realise the USA is gun-crazy, but i'm genuinely incredulous as to how "arming teachers" was a suggestion that wasn't immediately met with ridicule.
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:56 am
by Eraser
Guys, guys, guys. Reason has nothing to do with it. The NRA themselves can come up with 100 arguments on why it would be better to at least have stricter restrictions on gun ownership. It's just that it doesn't fit their agenda.
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:07 am
by vesp
Eraser wrote:Guys, guys, guys. Reason has nothing to do with it. The NRA themselves can come up with 100 arguments on why it would be better to at least have stricter restrictions on gun ownership. It's just that it doesn't fit their agenda.
Absolutely - money/power/influence. I get that - it's just crazy to look over at the US and see the civilian population that are foaming at the mouth in defense of it all just so that they get to keep their own guns and rifles.
I have US friends on facebook who seem to be fine with the idea that an armed teacher could have "taken down" the attacker. ie. shoot and kill him.
We're all desensitized to violence sure, but... the idea that a secondary school teacher would be fine with shooting and KILLING someone - that sort of thing fucks up police officers for crying out loud, and they want Mrs Smith the languages teacher to take on that mental burden? crazy.
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:31 am
by Doombrain
What you don't realise is the guys at the NRA are great people and will do the right thing. Thoughts and prayers.
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:32 am
by Doombrain
LOL. I don't even know why I give a shit, it's not even my country.
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:41 am
by Dirge Inferno
America is stupid.
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:28 pm
by seremtan
well obviously if he'd had more guns he would have felt confident enough to respond
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:35 pm
by Eraser
vesp wrote: the idea that a secondary school teacher would be fine with shooting and KILLING someone
in front of a class full of children no less
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 12:35 pm
by Eraser
seremtan wrote:
well obviously if he'd had more guns he would have felt confident enough to respond
Should've given him a bazooka
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:42 pm
by shaft
From nyt article.
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:53 pm
by seremtan
Trump's autism confirmed
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:25 pm
by phantasmagoria
SOAPboy wrote:Doombrain wrote:
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An*
fuckin' yanks
Re: Yet another school shooting in America
Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:50 pm
by Transient
Priorities, amirite?