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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 2:46 pm
by saturn
Billy Bellend wrote:saturn wrote:Billy Bellend wrote:
no thats not correct
no u
:icon27:
well you see things like this are so easy for me and others that its hard for us to understand just how much of a stuggle it is for you.
what the fuck are you babbling about, use some punctations.
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 2:50 pm
by Billy Bellend
oh your worked up
i apolagize for upsetting you and bruising your ego
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 2:53 pm
by saturn
bruising my ego? lollers
just fuck off alt
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 2:53 pm
by 4days
Billy Bellend wrote:well you see things like this are so easy for me and others that its hard for us to understand just how much of a stuggle it is for you.
it's all different for different folks but i think sat is right for most. quit smack like that *snaps fingers* but cigarettes took me ages to get over - still have the odd one if i'm in the pub and the mood's right.
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 2:55 pm
by Billy Bellend
saturn wrote:bruising my ego? lollers
just fuck off alt
see?
worked up on the internet lol
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 2:58 pm
by saturn
I couldn't give a shit about you think. Write some coherent sentences next time
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:00 pm
by Billy Bellend
i see foam on your mouth there little guy.
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:02 pm
by saturn
k
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:04 pm
by Billy Bellend
oh dont be like that i dinna mean to hurt your feelins.
*gives you bum a funspank
Re: Question to those who have ever beat an addiction
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:05 pm
by dmmh
tnf wrote:So, I deal with kids who are addicted to shit on a daily basis - everything from cigarettes to oxycontin.
I give them all the advice I can from a medical/scientific perspective, but what I don't have is advice to give them about how to beat cravings for their drug of choice.
People say that nicotine cravings can be as bad as almost any drug...so, what is the secret to beating them? Especially when you still have access to the thing you are addicted to? As I talk to kids, I try not to disillusion them into thinking that there will be a magic solution for their problem, and that it is going to take willpower, etc. But do any of you have things you have done that worked well for beating cravings when they hit you?
ive been addicted to weed, speed and XTC and currently only have a nicotine addiction
one thing is for sure: a nicotine addiction is the most hardest thing to get rid of.
basically, the toughest addictions are the mental one's, because there are not many treatments available for mental addictions. studies have shown nicotine is the most dificult drug to give up and Id have to concur.
Ive tried quiting numurous times, to no avail. The longest time was around six months and I only quit because I had a a severe double long infection along with a severe case of 'bronchitis'. (help me out here saturn).
Quiting popping pills, snorting speed and smoking weed was way less hard for me but posed a real challenge back in the day. In the end, you just realise youve lost all your friends, relatives, family and dignity due to your drug habbit, which makes it less hard. Smoking, at least over here, is more generally accepted, much like drinking alcohol is, which makes it harder.
In the end, it is all in the mind, which is what makes quiting ciggies not as easy as it seems. And even if you do, the will be numurous times you will just have cravings for it again. Never had cravings for speed, MDMA or weed for a couple of years, because I know I will just get a severe episode of paranoia

Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:08 pm
by Billy Bellend
hey dmmh you know what i realized about you yesterday?
i was watching a errol flynn movie(great movies btw) and ive come to the conclusion that you look like errol
neat ey?
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:11 pm
by Billy Bellend
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:14 pm
by dmmh
dude, do you even know what I look like?

Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:17 pm
by Billy Bellend
o course yea
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:17 pm
by dmmh
sure
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:20 pm
by Billy Bellend
i take it you doen see the resembelence then .
well diff people see diff things i guess
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:21 pm
by dmmh
the only thing I see is that Im one hot property
Re: Question to those who have ever beat an addiction
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:23 pm
by Doombrain
dmmh wrote:tnf wrote:So, I deal with kids who are addicted to shit on a daily basis - everything from cigarettes to oxycontin.
I give them all the advice I can from a medical/scientific perspective, but what I don't have is advice to give them about how to beat cravings for their drug of choice.
People say that nicotine cravings can be as bad as almost any drug...so, what is the secret to beating them? Especially when you still have access to the thing you are addicted to? As I talk to kids, I try not to disillusion them into thinking that there will be a magic solution for their problem, and that it is going to take willpower, etc. But do any of you have things you have done that worked well for beating cravings when they hit you?
ive been addicted to weed, speed and XTC and currently only have a nicotine addiction
one thing is for sure: a nicotine addiction is the most hardest thing to get rid of.
basically, the toughest addictions are the mental one's, because there are not many treatments available for mental addictions. studies have shown nicotine is the most dificult drug to give up and Id have to concur.
Ive tried quiting numurous times, to no avail. The longest time was around six months and I only quit because I had a a severe double long infection along with a severe case of 'bronchitis'. (help me out here saturn).
Quiting popping pills, snorting speed and smoking weed was way less hard for me but posed a real challenge back in the day. In the end, you just realise youve lost all your friends, relatives, family and dignity due to your drug habbit, which makes it less hard. Smoking, at least over here, is more generally accepted, much like drinking alcohol is, which makes it harder.
In the end, it is all in the mind, which is what makes quiting ciggies not as easy as it seems. And even if you do, the will be numurous times you will just have cravings for it again. Never had cravings for speed, MDMA or weed for a couple of years, because I know I will just get a severe episode of paranoia

fuck off have you. at most i bet you were a heavy user
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:23 pm
by Billy Bellend
really owned ?
hehe
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 3:57 pm
by SplishSplash
Addicted to X? You mean you took ecstasy every day?
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 4:05 pm
by dmmh
omg, you turning a drug addiction into a competition? how pathetic can you get?
edit meant to quote gookbrain
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 4:06 pm
by dmmh
SplishSplash wrote:Addicted to X? You mean you took ecstasy every day?
yes..
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 4:34 pm
by SplishSplash
wow, I didn't know people did that.
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 4:48 pm
by dmmh
an addiction is an addiction. the substance doesnt matter.
if you think an addiction is defined by using/ doing it every day, you are wrong anyway.
if you need coffee every thursday eve at 8 pm exactly, youre addicted. an addiction is an habit and doesnt come with a predefined time-schedule.
I snorted 2 grams of speed for 15 days straight on my lowest point in life sofar
I think I am allowed to say 'drugs are bad mmmmkay' every once in a while

Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 5:19 pm
by tnf
Saturn - here is one of those rapid detox methods I mentioned, but I can't find the name of the drug that I thought they used to do the rapid freeing of the opiate receptors.
http://www.opiates.com/waismann-method.html
The reason I was so convinced there was a drug that did this (almost instantly unbiding opiate from all your receptors in the brain) was that I once read an anectodotal (or maybe it was actually an abstract from a real journal...can't remember) about a long time junkie who took what they thought was a narcotic pill, but was actually a drug they had on hand for accidental overdose that would unbind all the drug from the brain...(like if one of their friends OD'd or something.) She took this drug instead, her body went into all those problems you mentioned before (tachycardia, etc, etc, etc.) and she died.
But I'll be damned if I can find it again...