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Also, Triumph Rocket III for the caravan pulling lulz.

EtUL wrote:That's on a short list for a mid range bike for me down the line, but I'm thinking about trying some other types first. Interested to hear why that over the monster, I've had a huge lust for a monster 696 after finding out they're about the size and weight of a ninja 250 but with 80 hp/60 ft lbs

The test ride is what did it for me. The Triumph grabbed me by the scruff of the neck while the Monster just felt clunky in comparison.

The handlebars on the Monster are comparatively lower and further; and this puts the rider in a sportier, more aggressive posture. I didn't like that. As well, even though the seat height is a good 30mm lower than the Street Triple, it felt a lot more awkward when stopped at lights. I think this had to do with the aggressive seating posture. The tank was also not quite as comfortable to grip with the knees [hence, a lot of testicular crushing]. The gearbox felt rough and I think the characteristic V-twin rattle is worse on the larger engine [compared my old VTR250]. It's not a terrible ride by any means, a fantastic piece of kit really, but it didn't wow me like the Street Triple did.

I was absolutely gobsmacked by the Street Triple. It's taller and heavier than the Monster, but I still felt a hell lot more comfortable on it. Stopped at lights, starting up again from standstill, gripping the tank. The seating posture is almost completely upright, which I really liked. The engine is phenomenal of course, that sweet triple cylinder exhaust whine and the Goldilocks "just right" in-between feel of not too hot or too cold. Gearbox felt a lot smoother than the Monster as well.

EtUL wrote:Frame sliders can be hit or miss IMO. I don't know who really tests them....my sister had a bike with them and they were too short. She tipped the bike multiple times and the sliders never touched...sooo.... I've also seen some horror stories (and pictures) of them catching on somethign on the ground and tearing chunks of the frame off. Take a closer look at the frame on my pics above for why this below is a Very Bad Thing:

Just to be sure, you've got to get the right ones for your bike. Because of the differences in bike shapes and where they are mounted, there's no single type of frame slider that'll work for all bikes. In Australia we've got Oggy Knobs [a brand I guess] and they tailor make them for specific bike models. So when you buy them, you've got to say "I want Oggy Knobs for a VTR250" or whatever.

From what I've read, the theory with frame sliders goes, if you're going fast enough to cause damage to the frame with sliders on it's likely the frame still would have been damaged or warped even if you didn't have frame sliders on. I guess there's a bit of luck involved as well, but all in all, I think the probability of coming off worse is far less than the advantages you might get from low speed drops.

edit: Should mention that they recently tightened laws in Australia whereby anything but the smallest scratch on the frame will render the bike a write-off and these bikes can no longer be repaired and re-registered for road use again. They get sold on auction as track bikes. So from our perspective, any type of frame damage at high speeds is a write-off [sliders or no sliders] whereas they will save you money in a low speed drop.

LawL wrote:

EtUL wrote:A gaytona for sure

2011 GSXR-1000.

What kind of moron buys the same kind of bike

U4EA wrote: The test ride is what did it for me. The Triumph grabbed me by the scruff of the neck while the Monster just felt clunky in comparison.

The handlebars on the Monster are comparatively lower and further; and this puts the rider in a sportier, more aggressive posture. I didn't like that. As well, even though the seat height is a good 30mm lower than the Street Triple, it felt a lot more awkward when stopped at lights. I think this had to do with the aggressive seating posture. The tank was also not quite as comfortable to grip with the knees [hence, a lot of testicular crushing]. The gearbox felt rough and I think the characteristic V-twin rattle is worse on the larger engine [compared my old VTR250]. It's not a terrible ride by any means, a fantastic piece of kit really, but it didn't wow me like the Street Triple did.

I was absolutely gobsmacked by the Street Triple. It's taller and heavier than the Monster, but I still felt a hell lot more comfortable on it. Stopped at lights, starting up again from standstill, gripping the tank. The seating posture is almost completely upright, which I really liked. The engine is phenomenal of course, that sweet triple cylinder exhaust whine and the Goldilocks "just right" in-between feel of not too hot or too cold. Gearbox felt a lot smoother than the Monster as well.

EtUL wrote:Frame sliders can be hit or miss IMO. I don't know who really tests them....my sister had a bike with them and they were too short. She tipped the bike multiple times and the sliders never touched...sooo.... I've also seen some horror stories (and pictures) of them catching on somethign on the ground and tearing chunks of the frame off. Take a closer look at the frame on my pics above for why this below is a Very Bad Thing:

Just to be sure, you've got to get the right ones for your bike. Because of the differences in bike shapes and where they are mounted, there's no single type of frame slider that'll work for all bikes. In Australia we've got Oggy Knobs [a brand I guess] and they tailor make them for specific bike models. So when you buy them, you've got to say "I want Oggy Knobs for a VTR250" or whatever.

From what I've read, the theory with frame sliders goes, if you're going fast enough to cause damage to the frame with sliders on it's likely the frame still would have been damaged or warped even if you didn't have frame sliders on. I guess there's a bit of luck involved as well, but all in all, I think the probability of coming off worse is far less than the advantages you might get from low speed drops.

edit: Should mention that they recently tightened laws in Australia whereby anything but the smallest scratch on the frame will render the bike a write-off and these bikes can no longer be repaired and re-registered for road use again. They get sold on auction as track bikes. So from our perspective, any type of frame damage at high speeds is a write-off [sliders or no sliders] whereas they will save you money in a low speed drop.

All of the negatives on the monster for you are reasons I'd get it mainly, so that's nice. It'd be for backroad fun for me, not comfort. As for the sliders, meh. I have comprehensive insurance and I'm not that attached to my bike.

The ones that didn't work were definitely made for the bike, paint matched and everything. They were just junk I guess. I've had the bike long enough that I've gotten the stupid newbie drops out of my system so meh.

Don Carlos wrote:[lvlshot]http://dayerses.com/data_images/posts/ducati-sport-1000/ducati-sport-1000-01.jpg[/lvlshot]

I want one of these...

Bike dude I chat with on IRC has one, seems to like it a bit.

I am jealous of said bike dude...I would learn to ride if I knew I could afford one of those. To me, it is everything a bike should be

loud pipes save lives bro

fuck that shit, some are too loud. we get it, you have a small penis, now please put back the other half of your muffler.

EtUL wrote:What kind of moron buys the same kind of bike

What kind of moron doesn't know that from 09 onwards the GSXR-1000 has been completely redesigned from the ground up?

from 09 onwards

Hilarious isn't it.

yes it is yes

Hey dudes, I decided it was time that this bike

my trusted old FZ6, and I parted ways. I decided to sell it and get a new bike. Check it out!

lawl

EtOOL and Duumbrain know nothing about bikes. Unsurprising.

I like to ride my bike, not obsess over spec sheets. A non moron would have bought an 09.

You like to crash your piece of crap, then try to convince yourself it doesn't now look like an even bigger heap of shit than it originally did. You probably shouldn't comment on models seeing that in your case not "obsessing over spec sheets" translates to "not having a fucking clue". A non moron buys the newest bike with the least amount of mileage in their price range - in your case that happens to be a gutless piece of shit FZ6 that's now been crashed.

looks like i touched a nerve lol...u still haven't even posted a pic

EtUL wrote:

Nice bike, does it come in a men's?

Very nice EtUL.
Video well done & beautiful country

Captain Mazda wrote:

EtUL wrote:

Nice bike, does it come in a men's?

Bahaha Lawl and Spazda agree Where's your bike puck puncher? I was wondering if u ever played goalie against a men's team.

i like ur bike EtUL seems fine, keep in mind i dont know alot about bikes, but i like that sport bike type style .

i think you guys that have and ride bikes are cool tho, when i'm driving my car i always drive to make it easy for you.

you guys with bikes, tell me, did you guys have minibikes and dirtbikes as kids?

or not and the first thing you did is by ur own bike?

EtUL wrote:looks like i touched a nerve lol...u still haven't even posted a pic

Looks like you got told.

Here's a couple of pics of mine after giving it a wash this afternoon. Taken in my garage so the light isn't the best.





Will look even more beastly once I put on custom pipes and a fender eliminator. Will post pics once mods are done.

A few years ago I was seriously considering a bike until I decided a car would fit my needs better, unfortunately I can't afford both. One day I'd love to own something as sexy as that Gixxer, but I'd probably start with a Ninja 250 or something.

Cars are ten times more convenient and practical than bikes for a multitude of reasons. But when you go for a good ride on a nice sunny day, it more than makes up for it - nothing compares.

Yeah, not to mention my area features some amazingly aggressive and incompetent (mostly indian) drivers, inconsistent weather, and a distinct lack of good roads. I'll consider a bike when I move back to Finland.