iPhone officially announced

Post by **werldhed** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:46 am

Dave wrote:
booker wrote:whatever happen to having a cellphone to just take and get calls on?
It started when people decided they didn't want to carry a music player, camera and a phone when they go out...

I don't carry any of those when I go out.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:48 am

werldhed wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:some more nice pics in a clear case:

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/macworld2007 ... 227486.php
laff at the first comment on that site; typical example of people whose only concern is aesthetics.
Reminds me of some of my coworkers.

yeah, some fanbois just need to shut their fucking pie holes.

Post by **Dave** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:50 am

werldhed wrote:
Dave wrote:
booker wrote:whatever happen to having a cellphone to just take and get calls on?
It started when people decided they didn't want to carry a music player, camera and a phone when they go out...
I don't carry any of those when I go out.

If I were normal, which I'm not, when I go to work in the morning I'd carry my ipod and a cell phone. I actually take the ipod, 10 pounds of camera stuff and leave the phone at home, so I don't really count.

Post by **R00k** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:34 am

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
R00k wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote: no more of a risk than leaving your car keys at parties.
Sure there is - people don't go out of their way to steal your car keys.
My buddy had his iPod stolen out of his truck a few weeks after he got it, right out in front of the house. I assume somebody had seen him leave it in there a lot, because nothing else was taken and it was out of sight.
There was a flurry of iPod thefts after they came out, because they were in such high demand. I'm sure the phones will be just as popular, and opportunistic crooks will take full advantage of it.
but my main point is that you have to be a moron to get one of these stolen from you unless you're mugged. plain and simple.

I know. But you don't have to be a moron to lock one in your truck in your driveway.

Post by **R00k** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:48 am

Dave wrote:
R00k wrote:
riddla wrote:they would be insane to lock in on any one carrier for longer than a few months tops. verizon, etc will cream all over apple with cash to become apple partners soon enough plus I'm patient with the treo in the meantime.
It says "exclusive" and "multi-year" contract in the article there.
Be nice, some people can't read

Okay.

Post by **feedback** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:08 am

Looks awesome, but sorry no way can I buy one. It's the next RAZR, every other cunt will have one and I have to be different.

Post by **Scourge** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:11 am

booker wrote:whatever happen to having a cellphone to just take and get calls on?

Apparently I got the last one.

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:11 am

What about Canada dammit!?!?

Post by **Grudge** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:28 am

* No 3G. We know you know, but still, it hurts man.
* No over the air iTunes Store downloads or WiFi syncing to your host machine.
* No expandable memory.
* No removable battery.
* No Exchange or Office support.

http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the- ... martphone/

No exchange support sucks, I don't care about a crappy Yahoo account, I want to be able to sync with my work mail and calendar.

Post by **SplishSplash** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:29 am

feedback wrote:Looks awesome, but sorry no way can I buy one. It's the next RAZR, every other cunt will have one and I have to be different.

this and:

It's just another PDA-phone, with all the same drawbacks, ie looking retarded while holding it up to your face, not fitting into any pocket, irritating UI

If I wanted that I could have gotten uglier (and apparently more powerful) versions of it long ago.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:33 pm

SplishSplash wrote:
feedback wrote:Looks awesome, but sorry no way can I buy one. It's the next RAZR, every other cunt will have one and I have to be different.
this and:

It's just another PDA-phone, with all the same drawbacks, ie looking retarded while holding it up to your face, not fitting into any pocket, irritating UI

If I wanted that I could have gotten uglier (and apparently more powerful) versions of it long ago.

i'm sorry? how is that going to look retarded holding it up to your face? looks pretty small for what it is, to me.

irritating UI? are you kidding me?

uh, it's got a slimmed down version of OS X on there, i'm sure it will be as powerful as any windows mobile phone currently on the market.

Post by **SplishSplash** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:36 pm

Yeah and ummm, about the introduction video:

OMG, I just sent a text message, that's amazing!

OMG, I just saved a recent number under a new name, incredible!

Post by **SplishSplash** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:38 pm

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:i'm sorry? how is that going to look retarded holding it up to your face? looks pretty small for what it is, to me.

For what it is, maybe. But all those Treo's and stuff are just as small, and they're way too big for me.

irritating UI? are you kidding me?

Touchscreens are irritating period. They're much slower to use than real buttons.

uh, it's got a slimmed down version of OS X on there, i'm sure it will be as powerful as any windows mobile phone currently on the market.

Ummm, 3G?

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:45 pm

SplishSplash wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:i'm sorry? how is that going to look retarded holding it up to your face? looks pretty small for what it is, to me.
For what it is, maybe. But all those Treo's and stuff are just as small, and they're way too big for me.

k.

irritating UI? are you kidding me?

Touchscreens are irritating period. They're much slower to use than real buttons.

from the video, it doesn't seem so. dunno about you, but i don't a qwerty keyboard with keys the size of pinheads on my phone.

uh, it's got a slimmed down version of OS X on there, i'm sure it will be as powerful as any windows mobile phone currently on the market.
Ummm, 3G?

what does the speed of telphony data protocols have to do with the speed of an OS? that's right, zero.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:46 pm

SplishSplash wrote:For what it is, maybe. But all those Treo's and stuff are just as small, and they're way too big for me.

k.

Touchscreens are irritating period. They're much slower to use than real buttons.

from the video, it doesn't seem so. dunno about you, but i don't a qwerty keyboard with keys the size of pinheads on my phone.

Ummm, 3G?

what does the speed of telphony data protocols have to do with the speed of an OS? that's right, zero.

Post by **SplishSplash** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:47 pm

My point is: This is just another portable computer. We've had TONS of those and they're all to big and too complicated to use on the go.

A good mobile phone you can use blindfolded. Try that with our iPhone/Treo/Blackberry

And no amount of video you can play on it will make up for the shitty touchscreen UI.

what does the speed of telphony data protocols have to do with the speed of an OS? that's right, zero.

"powerful" can mean a lot of things, and I consider a phone without 3G not POWERFUL.

Edit:

Maybe this will be the first phone with a usable touchscreen, but I really, really doubt it.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:50 pm

i have a feeling you don't like it.

Post by **SplishSplash** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:52 pm

I would like to like it, as I wanted to like the iPod video ("Lost" on the go? Awesome. Will I ever use that? Never.), but, alas, I'm afraid I can't.

Post by **Grudge** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:56 pm

You are obviously not the target group for the iPhone. You want a small, regular phone to make phonecalls with, fine, go buy a regular Nokia or a SonyEricsson or whatever.

The iPhone is something else. It's a convergence device with a touch interface, it's not a standard mobile phone, so don't compare it to one.

Oh, and until you have tried the actual touch interface just STFU about how bad it is. You have no idea.

And it has EDGE, which enables fast data rate, the only thing you really need 3G for is to make video calls, and we all know how often you do that.

Post by **plained** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:56 pm

looks abit like the old sony clie's

Post by **MKJ** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:57 pm

Post by **plained** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:01 pm

Post by **Doombrain** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:22 pm

Grudge wrote:You are obviously not the target group for the iPhone. You want a small, regular phone to make phonecalls with, fine, go buy a regular Nokia or a SonyEricsson or whatever.

The iPhone is something else. It's a convergence device with a touch interface, it's not a standard mobile phone, so don't compare it to one.

Oh, and until you have tried the actual touch interface just STFU about how bad it is. You have no idea.

And it has EDGE, which enables fast data rate, the only thing you really need 3G for is to make video calls, and we all know how often you do that.

well said.

people need to get away from this "it's just a phone" bullshit.

Post by **Fender** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:45 pm

clicky: Some size comparisons to Treo 750, Moto Q, and BB Pearl

Post by **SplishSplash** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:02 pm

Grudge wrote:You are obviously not the target group for the iPhone. You want a small, regular phone to make phonecalls with, fine, go buy a regular Nokia or a SonyEricsson or whatever.

The iPhone is something else. It's a convergence device with a touch interface, it's not a standard mobile phone, so don't compare it to one.

Oh, and until you have tried the actual touch interface just STFU about how bad it is. You have no idea.

And it has EDGE, which enables fast data rate, the only thing you really need 3G for is to make video calls, and we all know how often you do that.

Sorry for insulting your convergence device, you obviously have a lot of experience with it and with touchscreens, so you are completely right in telling me to shut up about them. After all Mr. Jobs must have put an awful lot of Innovation Power into this phone with it's awesome new features like text messaging and Starbuck prank calls and no 3G and non-exchangable batteries (which is good because that wasn't a problem with the iPod at all) and I was killing innovation by phantasizing about how touch screens weren't so useful in the past.

It's not like I ever used a phone with a touchscreen or anything and would know that they are an absolute pain to use whenever you want to do something quickly.

I wish you a successful convergence experience, and you're welcome to borrow my phone anytime your battery runs low because you were busy converging a new Big Brother episode on your device.