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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:12 am
by tnf
BEEFCAKE!

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:01 am
by ek
amen, dont forget the customery scream and the bench shirt

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:45 am
by +JuggerNaut+
tnf wrote:
ek wrote:1 rep "strength" tests are a waste of time
For gaining mass, definitely.

I can't stand high school football strength programs that have players maxing about every goddamned two weeks or so.

And you gotta love the guys who get to the bench, and htink its not 'cool' to warm up with light weight, so they instantly throw on something they can barely do for 8 reps or so....

I'd warm up with just the bar at first, then do rotator cuff work with 5 pound plates, then go to the a single 45 POUND plate on each side for 15-20 reps or so.

then i'd do 8 sets of 1 rep with a spotter handling about 40% of the weight with my pink/white/black zebra striped bodybuilder pants and my hip pack full of supplmement pills and needles.
the rotator cuff, i think my left one is getting hosed. i can't do bench presses because it hurts. i can do dumbbells only, but it doesn't hurt when i do those. what's going on with that.

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:05 am
by LawL
ToxicBug wrote:
Law wrote:Your comment was ambiguous so I wen't with it, that's all. If you want to talk about what you benched then talk in terms of weight - my max bench is two 45 pound and a 10 pound plate each side (Hey I benched 6 plates!).

I was stoked the first time I could bench the 45's, as they are the biggest plates and you look tougher with them on each side of the bar.
The number of plates refers to only one side. "benching two plates" actually means having a total of four 45lb plates on the bar.

Also, when someone just says "plate", it only refers to the 45lb plate, in any gym in North America.

http://www.goheavyorgohome.com/id10.html
There is nothing in the sentence "I benched 2 plates" that indicates anything about weight. That's a fact and you can't change that without altering the rules of the English language.

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:07 am
by LawL
tnf wrote:BEEFCAKE!
LIGHTWEIGHT BABY YEAH BUDDY WHOOOOOOOOOO

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:13 am
by tnf
Law wrote:
tnf wrote:BEEFCAKE!
LIGHTWEIGHT BABY YEAH BUDDY WHOOOOOOOOOO
ALL YOU ALL YOU ALL YOU MAN GIMME 2 MOREAAAHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGG

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:14 am
by tnf
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
tnf wrote:
ek wrote:1 rep "strength" tests are a waste of time
For gaining mass, definitely.

I can't stand high school football strength programs that have players maxing about every goddamned two weeks or so.

And you gotta love the guys who get to the bench, and htink its not 'cool' to warm up with light weight, so they instantly throw on something they can barely do for 8 reps or so....

I'd warm up with just the bar at first, then do rotator cuff work with 5 pound plates, then go to the a single 45 POUND plate on each side for 15-20 reps or so.

then i'd do 8 sets of 1 rep with a spotter handling about 40% of the weight with my pink/white/black zebra striped bodybuilder pants and my hip pack full of supplmement pills and needles.
the rotator cuff, i think my left one is getting hosed. i can't do bench presses because it hurts. i can do dumbbells only, but it doesn't hurt when i do those. what's going on with that.
do you do any cuff exercises?

I know some good ones if you need them.

When I was doing my heavy benching years ago I spent extra time on rotator cuff work.

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:19 am
by tnf
My first bench max in 8th grade was something like 80 pounds.

I remember wishing I could do the 45 pound plates on each side, and what a moral victory it was when that happened.
Funny how there are those arbitrary goals simply based on the plates. I had the same goal for 100 lb dumbell presses.

Ima going to start a program that is much more focused on overall condition as opposed to just weights. One of those trendy ones that includes basic cardio, kickboxing, boxing, power yoga, swiss ball work, medicine ball work, as well as the weights. I just need to get motivated again.

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:53 am
by ToxicBug
People tend to like round numbers in base 10, probably because we have 10 fingers. 100 is round number in base 10. 100 base 8 is a round number in base 8, but is only 64 in base 10. Therefore, any number can be made look nice and round if you just use another base, therefore round numbers are meaningless. The same goes for round years (2000, who gives a shit), etc.

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:04 am
by ek
Thanks for the gibberish.

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:05 am
by ek
tnf wrote: Ima going to start a program that is much more focused on overall condition as opposed to just weights. One of those trendy ones that includes basic cardio, kickboxing, boxing, power yoga, swiss ball work, medicine ball work, as well as the weights. I just need to get motivated again.
They are overrated, stick with basic weights and cardio!

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:43 am
by +JuggerNaut+
tnf wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
tnf wrote: For gaining mass, definitely.

I can't stand high school football strength programs that have players maxing about every goddamned two weeks or so.

And you gotta love the guys who get to the bench, and htink its not 'cool' to warm up with light weight, so they instantly throw on something they can barely do for 8 reps or so....

I'd warm up with just the bar at first, then do rotator cuff work with 5 pound plates, then go to the a single 45 POUND plate on each side for 15-20 reps or so.

then i'd do 8 sets of 1 rep with a spotter handling about 40% of the weight with my pink/white/black zebra striped bodybuilder pants and my hip pack full of supplmement pills and needles.
the rotator cuff, i think my left one is getting hosed. i can't do bench presses because it hurts. i can do dumbbells only, but it doesn't hurt when i do those. what's going on with that.
do you do any cuff exercises?

I know some good ones if you need them.

When I was doing my heavy benching years ago I spent extra time on rotator cuff work.
need plz

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:44 am
by Nightshade
Ditto.

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:22 am
by LawL
Image

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:42 pm
by Tormentius
Congrats TB.

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:13 pm
by ToxicBug
Thaaanks!

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:30 pm
by feedback
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
tnf wrote:
ek wrote:1 rep "strength" tests are a waste of time
For gaining mass, definitely.

I can't stand high school football strength programs that have players maxing about every goddamned two weeks or so.

And you gotta love the guys who get to the bench, and htink its not 'cool' to warm up with light weight, so they instantly throw on something they can barely do for 8 reps or so....

I'd warm up with just the bar at first, then do rotator cuff work with 5 pound plates, then go to the a single 45 POUND plate on each side for 15-20 reps or so.

then i'd do 8 sets of 1 rep with a spotter handling about 40% of the weight with my pink/white/black zebra striped bodybuilder pants and my hip pack full of supplmement pills and needles.
the rotator cuff, i think my left one is getting hosed. i can't do bench presses because it hurts. i can do dumbbells only, but it doesn't hurt when i do those. what's going on with that.
the rotator cuff isn't just one thing, it's a group of muscles around your shoulder joint, made up of the supraspinatus, infraspinatus, teres minor, and the deltoid. You'll want to work on all 4 of those to strengthen your rotator cuff. I wrote a paper a while back detailing some exercises for RC injuries, I'll see if I can find it. And this may seem like an odd question, but do/did you play baseball at all?

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:51 pm
by ToxicBug
My right calf feels stiff these days, since I started training legs a lot. It feels like the muscle is tense for no reason, its stiff when i walk and when I sit. feedback, do you have any idea about what I can do to fix this?

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:41 pm
by Captain
That's because you've been making them work rigorously all of a sudden. It's nothing serious and will pass shortly. Make sure you get a good training routine going so your muscles get used to the cycles.

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:26 am
by ek
ToxicBug wrote:My right calf feels stiff these days, since I started training legs a lot. It feels like the muscle is tense for no reason, its stiff when i walk and when I sit. feedback, do you have any idea about what I can do to fix this?
In between your warm up sets stretch your calf's.

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:57 am
by +JuggerNaut+
feedback wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
tnf wrote: For gaining mass, definitely.

I can't stand high school football strength programs that have players maxing about every goddamned two weeks or so.

And you gotta love the guys who get to the bench, and htink its not 'cool' to warm up with light weight, so they instantly throw on something they can barely do for 8 reps or so....

I'd warm up with just the bar at first, then do rotator cuff work with 5 pound plates, then go to the a single 45 POUND plate on each side for 15-20 reps or so.

then i'd do 8 sets of 1 rep with a spotter handling about 40% of the weight with my pink/white/black zebra striped bodybuilder pants and my hip pack full of supplmement pills and needles.
the rotator cuff, i think my left one is getting hosed. i can't do bench presses because it hurts. i can do dumbbells only, but it doesn't hurt when i do those. what's going on with that.
the rotator cuff isn't just one thing, it's a group of muscles around your shoulder joint, made up of the supraspinatus, infraspinatus, teres minor, and the deltoid. You'll want to work on all 4 of those to strengthen your rotator cuff. I wrote a paper a while back detailing some exercises for RC injuries, I'll see if I can find it. And this may seem like an odd question, but do/did you play baseball at all?
i'd appreciate it if you could. i did play baseball as a kid and through most of high school, but not much beyond that.

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 3:20 am
by ToxicBug
Did 5 dips with the 100lb plate on my 8th set today, woo! Now I know how heavy that fucking thing is.

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 5:43 am
by tnf
oh yea i forgot about those rotator cuff exercises...lemme see if i can find pics of the ones i used, its easier than trying to describe them...they are pretty common...but worked well for me.

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:12 pm
by feedback
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
feedback wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote: the rotator cuff, i think my left one is getting hosed. i can't do bench presses because it hurts. i can do dumbbells only, but it doesn't hurt when i do those. what's going on with that.
the rotator cuff isn't just one thing, it's a group of muscles around your shoulder joint, made up of the supraspinatus, infraspinatus, teres minor, and the deltoid. You'll want to work on all 4 of those to strengthen your rotator cuff. I wrote a paper a while back detailing some exercises for RC injuries, I'll see if I can find it. And this may seem like an odd question, but do/did you play baseball at all?
i'd appreciate it if you could. i did play baseball as a kid and through most of high school, but not much beyond that.
lol sorry, looks like I don't have a copy of the paper anymore, hopefully tnf can find some for you. I asked about baseball because RC injuries are extremely common in baseball due to pitching. The pitch puts excessive strain on the RC because of the high rotational velocities (up to 7000 degrees a second in some cases), so pretty much everyone who pitches in baseball ends up with a fucked RC if they don't watch it.

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 6:24 pm
by +JuggerNaut+
np man, thanks for checking. yeah, i stayed away from pitching, but was a 3rd baseman which probably didn't help things.