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Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:06 am
by Maiden
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:31 am
by Dr_Watson
Maiden wrote:http://www.aft.org/salary/index.htm
dunno if i trust a union website... probably only union members were used and they say on their site that they only represent 1.3 million people... there better be a lot more teachers in this country than that.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:52 am
by Maiden
6.3 million:
The number of U.S. teachers -- from prekindergarten to college -- as of 1999. <http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/2001/cb01-27.html>
$51,600:
Average salary paid to public school teachers in Connecticut for the 1998-99 school year -- highest of any state in the nation. Teachers in South Dakota had the lowest average salary -- $28,600. The national average was $40,600.
thats from the census bureau and six years old so the numbers from the union page for 03 being ~46K doesnt seem too far out of wack.
like i said, a good teacher is worth millions, and I give them all a raise tomorrow, but I think people tend to think teachers have it worse off than they really do.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:12 am
by Dr_Watson
i think the high end has it really well, but the majority are at the low end.
its like, look at the average salary nation wide... then look at the poverty rate.
the people at the top make so much that if you only look at the average, you miss the major problems at the bottom.
tenured teachers right before they retire make a shit pile of money.
these figures are also not normalized to the cost of living.
CT and CA may pay their teachers more than average, but they also have extremely high cost of living.
my Aunt lives in CT, she's always willing to bitch about how expensive it is. To even go grocery shopping costs her 2-3x more than she used to spend living in buffalo.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:52 am
by Maiden
the ol baby boomers prob have something to do with it as well. I am sure there are a ton of them at the top of the pay scale counting the days till retirement.
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:17 am
by RiffRaff
Dr_Watson wrote:
i smell tourism.
It does help :icon25:
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 4:21 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
Are you sure it's the teachers' fault? From what I've observed, the U.S. has let it's education system go to shit over the last 25 years. In fact it's looked like an intentional dismemberment. (to me anyhow)