have you heard of this guy?

Post by **andyman** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:04 am

"back up in your ass with the ressurection.."

Post by **LawL** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:59 am

tnf wrote:this guy's also big - 7 foot+ or something

but he's no mma fighter or boxer...dalip singh

That's The Great Khali.

Post by **Nightshade** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:30 am

Who? The ugly bitch behind Dalip Singh?

Post by **LawL** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:44 am

It's his name in the WWE.

Post by **Nightshade** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:34 am

Post by ek » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:35 am

7 foot
http://www.conanstevens.com/index.php?o ... temId=7821

Post by **tnf** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:48 pm

this guy appears to be no slouch either"

But those guys never tend to do well on stage next to your Cutlers and Colemans. Think we'll ever have a 6'6"+ Mr.O?

I'd guess it will probably happen someday.

Post by **Wabbit** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:22 pm

Sorry to see the guy signed with the wwe.

I was watching ESPN yesterday and they had a commentary on the Benoit murders/sucide. Basically, the guy was saying that, because wrestlers have to absorb most of the impact of their moves (like Benoit jumping off the ropes--he absorbed most of the impact, not the guy he was landing on), it causes alot of trauma to the head. Repeated, long term head trauma can lead to depression, psychosis and other psychiatric problems.

The feeling is that Benoit's problem was not "roid rage" per se, but a combination of issues and possible psychiatric problems brought on, or made worse, by repeated head trauma. The steriods and other medications he was taking just made it worse.

Post by **tnf** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:21 pm

Wabbit wrote:Sorry to see the guy signed with the wwe.

I was watching ESPN yesterday and they had a commentary on the Benoit murders/sucide. Basically, the guy was saying that, because wrestlers have to absorb most of the impact of their moves (like Benoit jumping off the ropes--he absorbed most of the impact, not the guy he was landing on), it causes alot of trauma to the head. Repeated, long term head trauma can lead to depression, psychosis and other psychiatric problems.

The feeling is that Benoit's problem was not "roid rage" per se, but a combination of issues and possible psychiatric problems brought on, or made worse, by repeated head trauma. The steriods and other medications he was taking just made it worse.

Why are you sorry he signed with them? So he can make more money than he would in most any other profession someone in his position can go for?

There have been more deaths than average, obviously, most likely as a result of the long term impacts of drug use. But Benoit's flipping out and going balls out nuts isn't the norm in any way, shape, or form.

Would you be sorry if he signed on to play professional football?

Post by **Wabbit** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:27 pm

Funny that you mention professional football. I don't remember the ESPN comentator's name, I'm sorry--but he mentioned that football has been/is notorious for injury/drug use and lack of testing.

I think the entire point was, there's alot of deaths, injuries and long term damage done to these "professionals" that the public never hears about. These athletes just quietly pass away.

When something like the Benoit thing happens, it gets quickly passed off to "roid rage" or something like it, so it can be blamed entirely on the individual, and not seen as a possible by-product of the game itself.

I wonder if there are any hard statics relating to psychiatric problems in terms of head injuries. I haven't been able to find any, but the comentator intimated that there was a direct correlation between the two.

It's seems a terrible price to pay--no matter what the sport.

Post by **LawL** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:36 pm

tnf wrote:Think we'll ever have a 6'6"+ Mr.O?

No, they'd have to come on stage at about 350 pounds to achieve the same look of muscularity as someone who is around the optimum bodybuilding height of around 5'10.

Post by **Geebs** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:48 pm

Wabbit wrote:I think the entire point was, there's alot of deaths, injuries and long term damage done to these "professionals" that the public never hears about. These athletes just quietly pass away.

They get well paid and choose to do it. Cry me a fucking river, at least they're not left too obese to leave their room like the sumo wrestlers....

Post by **tnf** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:01 am

Geebs wrote:
Wabbit wrote:I think the entire point was, there's alot of deaths, injuries and long term damage done to these "professionals" that the public never hears about. These athletes just quietly pass away.
They get well paid and choose to do it. Cry me a fucking river, at least they're not left too obese to leave their room like the sumo wrestlers....

Exactly. CHOICE. And they can choose not to drug. There are several that don't. And some that do. To be honest, I'd guess this big guy has a growth irregularity that would make him less likely to need to juice (but he may still). And guys that big traditionally take much less in the way of hard bumps as the smaller guys, since nobody will be throwing them around nor will they be jumping off of the top of a steel cage down to a table outside of the ring 25 feet below a la Mick Foley.

Anyone remember that cage match against the undertaker? Some insane falls there.

Post by **tnf** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:03 am

LawL wrote:
tnf wrote:Think we'll ever have a 6'6"+ Mr.O?
No, they'd have to come on stage at about 350 pounds to achieve the same look of muscularity as someone who is around the optimum bodybuilding height of around 5'10.

I think there is a chance that one day some freak might have the right combination of odd genetics and a heavy enough drug regime to pull it off.

But it will be tough to have the symmetry and everything else.

Remember that guy Greg Kovacs? The Muscletech posterboy during their early years. I recall them going on about how he would hit the stage at almost 400 pounds or some shit. He ended up being a big flop on stage. I'd rather have Shawn Ray's physique than a 6'6" guy without the symmetry.

Post by **LawL** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:04 am

You're right, Khali pretty much takes no bumps at all.

Post by **Nightshade** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:08 am

tnf wrote:this guy appears to be no slouch either"

But those guys never tend to do well on stage next to your Cutlers and Colemans. Think we'll ever have a 6'6"+ Mr.O?

I'd guess it will probably happen someday.

Sweet fucking christ that guy's a truck.

Post by **tnf** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:08 am

LawL wrote:You're right, Khali pretty much takes no bumps at all.

When I think of big guys trying to take bumps, I think of the giant (paul wight?) when kevin Nash tried to powerbomb him and didn't quite get him flipped onto his back, dropping him on his neck in a real awkward way. No big time injury, but unless guys of that size are going to be having people throw those types of moves on them they just don't run many of the risks that most everyone else does. Fake or not, some of that shit is fucking crazy to try and can't feel good. Maybe the big guys need to worry about the chair shots.

Post by **Nightshade** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:10 am

I believe most of those goons end up with serious injuries at some point in their careers.

Post by **tnf** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:32 am

Oh sure, most will have a serious injury here or there. But as far as the day to day bumps that the guys take that can lead to that cumulative brain trauma, the really big guys like Singh there tend to take fewer of them.

Post by **LawL** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:31 am

tnf wrote:
LawL wrote:You're right, Khali pretty much takes no bumps at all.
When I think of big guys trying to take bumps, I think of the giant (paul wight?) when kevin Nash tried to powerbomb him and didn't quite get him flipped onto his back, dropping him on his neck in a real awkward way. No big time injury, but unless guys of that size are going to be having people throw those types of moves on them they just don't run many of the risks that most everyone else does. Fake or not, some of that shit is fucking crazy to try and can't feel good. Maybe the big guys need to worry about the chair shots.

Yeah I remember that, it was also done at the time where Giant/Big Show was at his lightest. He's retired now because his back has almost crippled him.

Post by **tnf** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 2:24 pm

I wondered how long that guy would make it for. I saw him in person a couple times, and the guy did not look healthy.

The most impressive strength move I watched him pull off was to press a guy overhead and then throw him back into the ring over the top rope from the outside floor. I don't care how much help you get from the guy you are lifting, that is a fucking feat of strength.

Speaking of freakish strength, LawL do you remember any of Davy Boy Smiths power moves?

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:18 pm

tnf wrote:
But it will be tough to have the symmetry and everything else.

Remember that guy Greg Kovacs? The Muscletech posterboy during their early years. I recall them going on about how he would hit the stage at almost 400 pounds or some shit. He ended up being a big flop on stage. I'd rather have Shawn Ray's physique than a 6'6" guy without the symmetry.

while we're on the subject of male beauty, check this one out:

Post by **Nightshade** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:38 pm

Jules, do your parents know you're gay?

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:03 pm

what makes you think I'm gay?

This thread is all about the appreciation of the male physique.

Post by **Nightshade** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:32 pm

Oh, I don't know, maybe the fact that you think this thread is about appreciating the male physique?