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sliver, just to be clear here, I'm agreeing with you, ok? Catwoman and The Core are two of the stupidest, worst movies I've ever seen.

Fjoggs wrote:You can't really base your argument on previous achievements. The script in bad boys does what it's supposed to. It's not meant to be breathtaking.

I'm not trying to characterize it as breathtaking, it was simply a hell of a lot better than Transformers' script. And I think previous achievements are entirely relevant because two good screenwriters collaborated on BB2, and retards collaborated on Transformers. You get out what you put in, and Michael Bay didn't put a whole helluva lot into Transformers outside of the CGI department.

Grudge wrote:sliver, just to be clear here, I'm agreeing with you, ok? Catwoman and The Core are two of the stupidest, worst movies I've ever seen.

i know, "fuck off" was aimed at r00k.

Dave wrote:Bad Boys 2 was ballin'. I especially liked Joe Pantoliano as the captain. You don't watch those films for their strong plots...

I liked him more in Bad Boys (1), but he's definitely an underrated actor.

"Goddamn you, Cypher!"

I think the problems most people have with Michael Bay are of the personal kind and they get carried over into opinions of the film. There was that big row between him and Willis that probably set a lot of people against Bay.

sliver wrote:

Grudge wrote:Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer - 4/10

Shallow, meaningless, silly and botched use of the Silver Surfer. Meh.

It looked absolutely appalling as a movie, but Jessica Alba's hot and the Silver Surfer effects looked neat. Worth seeing purely for those two reasons, or no?

worth a download a rainy day, yes

worth visit to the theatre or a rental, no

the Silver Surfer character had potential but was horribly underused IMO, and go see Into The Blue instead if you want to see Jessica Alba

Oh yeah, I watched Playing By Heart last night and i'll give it an 8/10.

It's one of those movies where a bunch of seemingly disparate plot strands interconnect in the third act, and while most of the interconnections were pretty obvious (this was back in the naive 90s, before people got skeptical enough that Crash was too predictable, I guess), the cast was really good.

(EDIT: It's a romantic comedy, which is a genre I normally avoid, but I found myself drawn to it because of the cast.)

I love ensemble casts, and this one's solid: Sean Connery, Gillian Anderson, Dennis Quaid, Angelina Jolie, Ryan Phillipe, Jon Stewart, Madeleine Stowe, Gena Rowlands, Ellen Burstyn, and Anthony Edwards (for any Top Gun/ER fans).

Grudge wrote:worth a download a rainy day, yes. worth visit to the theatre or a rental, no

the Silver Surfer character had potential but was horribly underused IMO, and go see Into The Blue instead if you want to see Jessica Alba

saw it already for just that reason. Well, that and I like sharks.

... And becaue of that shot they showed in the trailers where Paul Walker is swimming underwater and the camera is underwater with him, and a guy on the deck of the boat in the background shoots down at him and the bullets whiz by leaving trails of bubbles. It reminded me of the effect in Q3 when you fire the machine gun underwater haha, I used to make vids of that and use some crazy mod I forget the details of to turn it into "bullettime." Good old days.

Harry Potter: Order of the Phoenix - 7/10

This one was a pretty decent movie and surprised me quite well. It was better than 4, which I had previously thought to be better than any of the others. But my god, Emma Watson's voice gives me murderous thoughts. I'm glad she only had a minor role in this one. Halfway through the movie my friend let out a sudden shriek. Some fucking little black kid walked past our seats and managed to stomp her foot hard, without a single attempt to apologize. After the movie, I went up to his mother and told her to teach her children basic human etiquette.

Of course I spoke in her native dialect, with a series of sharp clicking noises.

Grudge wrote:

are there any vgcats comics that are funny? they all seem to drag on pointlessly.

Shush all. I'm going to watch Transformers iiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnn.... 6mins. w00t :P

Hot Fuzz 7/10

Quite enjoyable. It's hard to call this one a dark comedy. Maybe just a lot of dry humor (which is a good thing when done properly).

sliver wrote:The fact that you disagree with me convinces me that you have no idea how literate people talk.

Yea, I guess Martin Lawrence really knows how literate people talk and I never will. :icon27:

That's all you really had to post to get across what you were trying to say. The rest of the novel was unnecessary.

sliver wrote:Watch "The Birds" -- the opening (pet shop) scene is one of the best-written scenes of dialogue ever put to film. The same goes for my personal favourite, Bogart & Bacall's first meeting the The Big Sleep.

Since it sounds like you're actually being sincere here, I might check these out, because I do enjoy good dialog. It may be interesting after all, in spite of our opinions' being so obviously different.


Also:

di·a·log (dī'ə-lôg', -lŏg') Pronunciation Key
n. & v.
Variant of dialogue.


I have better use of the language than most people I've ever known - and that includes most of the "journalists" I work with. I get tired of seeing red underlines under "dialogue" when I type it, so I changed it. So please fuck off with your pretentious literacy complex.

The Painted Veil - 7/10

I was pleasantly surprised by this one. The original novel doesn't sound like it would be nearly as good as the film though.

R00k wrote:Yea, I guess Martin Lawrence really knows how literate people talk and I never will. :icon27:

- an actor doesn't have to know anything, he only has to say what the writer gives him.
- I would rather listen to some sort of meaning expressed in ebonics than the insipid and almost caustically tiresome cliches spewed, perhaps in grammatically correct American Standard English, from every mouth in Transformers

R00k wrote:Since it sounds like you're actually being sincere here, I might check these out, because I do enjoy good dialog. It may be interesting after all, in spite of our opinions' being so obviously different.

Please do watch them, they are both incredible movies; but every word I wrote was entirely sincere.

And one does not "have better use" of anything, ever, unless one is woefully inarticulate, but I'm not going to waste any more time.

Every word you wrote was entirely pompous.

Saying that someone has "no idea how literate people talk," because of their opinion on a typical Hollywood action flick.... That's just pretentious, not to mention a ridiculous assertion on its face.

Told.

R00k wrote:Every word you wrote was entirely pompous.

Saying that someone has "no idea how literate people talk," because of their opinion on a typical Hollywood action flick.... That's just pretentious, not to mention a ridiculous assertion on its face.

His entire review was anal and pretentious. I've said it before but its a movie based off of a cartoon about 50ft robots from outer space. What the fuck do people expect here, the works of Shakespeare!?

Just because it's abut 50ft robots from outer space doesn't mean we have to gobble up all the shit that surrounds them without questioning it. It simply could have been so much better with proper writing/direction.

For example, the Terminator is about fucking murder robots from the future, and Ali_en is about creatures from outer space who develop inside people and burst out in a bloody splatter. Pretty ridiculous right? But those films are modern classics, because they have many different qualities.

Grudge wrote:Just because it's abut 50ft robots from outer space doesn't mean we have to gobble up all the shit that surrounds them without questioning it. It simply could have been so much better with proper writing/direction.

For example, the Terminator is about fucking murder robots from the future, and Ali_en is about creatures from outer space who develop inside people and burst out in a bloody splatter. Pretty ridiculous right? But those films are modern classics, because they have many different qualities.

Yes but The Terminator and Alien are both Adult rated films that were never targeted at the youth market. Bay had to make a movie that appealed to a much larger audience and as such had his hands tied. I think giving the wiggle room that he had he did an excellent job.

sliver wrote:

R00k wrote:Yea, I guess Martin Lawrence really knows how literate people talk and I never will. :icon27:

- an actor doesn't have to know anything, he only has to say what the writer gives him.
- I would rather listen to some sort of meaning expressed in ebonics than the insipid and almost caustically tiresome cliches spewed, perhaps in grammatically correct American Standard English, from every mouth in Transformers

R00k wrote:Since it sounds like you're actually being sincere here, I might check these out, because I do enjoy good dialog. It may be interesting after all, in spite of our opinions' being so obviously different.

Please do watch them, they are both incredible movies; but every word I wrote was entirely sincere.

And one does not "have better use" of anything, ever, unless one is woefully inarticulate, but I'm not going to waste any more time.

I take it arrogance is a motto you live by.

You'll make a great journalist someday.

Jackal wrote:Yes but The Terminator and geoff are both Adult rated films that were never targeted at the youth market. Bay had to make a movie that appealed to a much larger audience and as such had his hands tied. I think giving the wiggle room that he had he did an excellent job.

Which, in itself, is of course bullshit. The obvious target group for Transformers is not kids, but people who were kids when the cartoon came out. You know, adults.

Honestly, i don't grasp the logic of these marketing decisions. What, they think somehow if they make a shittier movie that kids can see, they're going to make more money through the sales of toys? Are they stupid shitheads? Do they not realize the toys will only become ten times more attractive to kids if they come from movie they aren't allowed to see? And that the adults will buy them too?

Shit.... Fucking.....Argh....

Transformers... / 10

First of all, where the fuck were the robots at? 90% of the time they were not even there, and we were with either Sparkplug, sorry, SAM, shooting his wad over that ugly chick who was so up her self I would of NOT let her get in the car, or we were with the most random government I've ever seen. I mean casting people, what the fuck was with the ultra hot hacker women? There was ONE fat as fuck nerd, and he didn't have a zit in sight...?

Caaaaaame own...

Lets put side the GOD AWFUL acting from the humans, and go straight to other problems...

The plot was awful, anybody who loved the original could see this.

The bots had no screen time, at all,then they crammed them in right at the end and never, once, let you even FOCUS on them. The best shot of something was when a building was blowing up as a car was flying over head. What?

The bots voices, were, shit. Even primes. Hes to old now I love the guy but damn he sounds so odd. Megatron was awful, but Bumblebee stole the show. When I say stole, i mean he fucking messed the entire thing up. I can see they made the plot better by having him not talk, it would of been strange. But the voice he does speak in? Thats not bumblebee. Thats a fucking posh english guy from Eastenders...? Eh?

How they got to Earth, was stupid. What were Prime and the gang just waiting in space to fall down when Bumblebee shot the bat signal? And Megatron, gets FROZEN? Wheres the damn ship that crashes into a planet, where is the fight between them all, before they all die...? Eh...?

The black robot dies. I cant even begin to say how fucking obvious this was. However, he had 4 lines, most of which make him seem like a true gangsta anyway, so I was happy he died.

Those little bots, the ones that steal Sams shorts... They were fucking stupid. They got rid of Lazerbeak and the like for him...? Why?

360 bot. I dont even need to go into why this was wrong.

Oh, and forgive me, even if my voice box was damaged, as soon as some kid started fucking a girl on my car, I would have gone Herby on his ass.

In short, amazingly after reading that if you did, I did enjoy parts of it. But other parts had me checking my watch, they just dragged.

Note to Bay: If you make another, please, for the love of GOD, make it about GIANT ROBOTS. Not Sam and the Government, with giant robots at the end...

Honestly, at times it was getting so bad I really though Rodimus Prime was gonna make an appearance...

Ryoki wrote:

Jackal wrote:Yes but The Terminator and geoff are both Adult rated films that were never targeted at the youth market. Bay had to make a movie that appealed to a much larger audience and as such had his hands tied. I think giving the wiggle room that he had he did an excellent job.

Which, in itself, is of course bullshit. The obvious target group for Transformers is not kids, but people who were kids when the cartoon came out. You know, adults.

Honestly, i don't grasp the logic of these marketing decisions. What, they think somehow if they make a shittier movie that kids can see, they're going to make more money through the sales of toys? Are they stupid shitheads? Do they not realize the toys will only become ten times more attractive to kids if they come from movie they aren't allowed to see? And that the adults will buy them too?

Sorry Ryoiki, but you're wrong. Making something inaccessible to a certain audience doesn't make it more attractive, it just detracts from sales. Your point might be true on a micro level but it would never apply to the macro.
Beyond that, people in their early to late 20's are only a part of the target audience. Sure, we were the one's watching when the show started but you have to remember that Transformers has been a continuing franchise for the past 15-20 years in both cartoon and comic book form.

And yes, making a film that lends itself to merchandising will always inflate your sales astronomically. If Transformers was rated R (which I think would make it completely unfaithful to the franchise) they would not sell nearly as many toys and/or tickets.

So just because "it's for kids" it's alright that it's shit?

Although I do agree with you that childrens movies recently have been rather abysmal, but E.T and The Goonies disagree with you.

I can't figure out what the fuck Spielberg was doing producing this Transformers turd.