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bitWISE wrote:So when discussing the iPhone, things to do with AT&T and things to do with hardware are fair game. But Android is only a piece of software so any problems related to hardware or carrier are totally unrelated? Kinda seems like we're comparing Apples (ha!) to Oranges at this point. You get applauded for allowing diversity but any negative things at all that come out of it have to be ignored? That's fucking bullshit.

1) That affects VERY few people in the end
2) Yes, it's gay, because what's so great about Android is it's open nature. This is a Motorola/Verizon mod, not an Android issue.

It doesn't surprise me that Apple knew about this problem beforehand. The bumpers that they're selling is a direct indication.

gg's
Apple holding an iPhone 4 press conference on Friday.
http://gizmodo.com/5587384/apple-holdin ... -on-friday

DERP Read up about 10 posts.

like anyone really pays attention to U4EA's right column

WHAT WILL YOU DO NOW EH!??!!?

Tsakali wrote:like anyone really pays attention to U4EA's right column

Excellent point.

Apple giving refunds for the phones ?, it can be seen in the store as defective so refusing would have to be against some consumer law ?

bitWISE wrote:So when discussing the iPhone, things to do with AT&T and things to do with hardware are fair game. But Android is only a piece of software so any problems related to hardware or carrier are totally unrelated? Kinda seems like we're comparing Apples (ha!) to Oranges at this point. You get applauded for allowing diversity but any negative things at all that come out of it have to be ignored? That's fucking bullshit.

No no no, it's completely different.
The thing is that the iPhone is one device that everyone that owns an iPhone has. With iPhone, it's not just the OS that binds the people, but the hardware as well. So a hardware fault with iPhone affects everyone that owns an iPhone (I know, I know, I'm ignoring the fact that there's different iPhone models but the point should be clear).

If there's a hardware fault with a specific phone that runs Android, it only affects that specific model and it's not something that can be blamed on Android or stretched across all phones running Android.

The problem with the iPhone vs Android debate is that iPhone represents hardware as well as software while Android only represents software.

U4EA wrote:

WHAT WILL YOU DO NOW EH!??!!?

Eraser wrote:

bitWISE wrote:
The problem with the iPhone vs Android debate is that iPhone represents hardware as well as software while Android only represents software.

It's sad that you even have to type that out for people to understand.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/live ... refresh=60

live blog is up

tl;dr: all phones have this problem, we had our scientists and engineers confirm it, very few have been returned, phone is the best smartphone according to PC mag, engadget, wired, etc, have a free case to fix the problem.

so all the iphone4's now will required a cover or at least a bumper to resolve this issue.

Apple designer commits suicide in 4...3...2...

"we love our users"

10:41AM Q: I can't get my Bold to drop right now, maybe you can show me how to do it?
Steve: You may not see it in certain areas.

lol

Hah, if they just put up a picture of the phone with low signal and went "Evidence!" that's a chuckle.

So it looks like my phone is working perfectly fine and I get a free case. I win.

he's like the polar opposite of gabe newell.

All those Ph.D.s, scientists, engineers, and anechoic chambers, but they couldn't figure out (over what, four generations of hardware?) that their RSSI algorithm was borked? They didn't find a horribly obvious flaw in the way the antenna/case design could be effected by normal usage?

Yeah, I call bullshit.

By the way, after I read the press conference transcript, I held my Evo with both hands 68 ways to Sunday and I couldn't make it drop a single bar. Eat shit, Jobs.

n.
A persistent sense of inadequacy or a tendency to self-diminishment, sometimes resulting in excessive aggressiveness through overcompensation.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/noki ... -design-i/

it's a shame google and apple don't.

Big Kahuna Burger wrote:n.
A persistent sense of inadequacy or a tendency to self-diminishment, sometimes resulting in excessive aggressiveness through overcompensation.

Troll
n. A Q3W poster that doesn't have an iPhone and yammers non-stop about how awesome the iPhone4 is.