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scared? wrote:
another ignorant moron types words...

Don't be mad that in the UK you'd be downgraded from pooron to homeless

ur country is a shithole and u think its nice? when i was there i was appalled at the living conditions...

pathetic...

You sound bitter, must be the sight of houses that appear to have been constructed by wizards

Forgive my ignorance, I do not come from a country that makes something more luxurious by simply making it bigger

lol the faux yank outrage in this thread is laughable.

Yes, your chances of an ENTIRE TOWN NOT BEING ERASED FROM EXISTENCE would indeed IMPROVE if you made your buildings out of brick and mortar. Why you fools are arguing against that is nothing short of retardation writ large as all you're doing is defending your practices of building shit as cheaply as possible.

But I have a better idea that, for some reason, isn't even being considered: move away from something called "tornado alley".

Eurotrash, Asia-fags and North American neanderthal morons would all justifiably laugh at someone who continues to pitch a tent on a freeway after getting hit by cars over and over again, so it's really not too far out of line to point out that perhaps Dorothy and her family should move somewhere else. It doesn't matter if you've put "roots" there, as nearly everyone on the planet who isn't an energy-industry lobbyist will tell you those roots will eventually be ripped out of the ground by yet another mile-wide F5 tornado...which due to climate change will happen more and more often.

GONNAFISTYA wrote:lol the faux yank outrage in this thread is laughable.

Yes, your chances of an ENTIRE TOWN NOT BEING ERASED FROM EXISTENCE would indeed IMPROVE if you made your buildings out of brick and mortar. Why you fools are arguing against that is nothing short of retardation writ large as all you're doing is defending your practices of building shit as cheaply as possible.

But I have a better idea that, for some reason, isn't even being considered: move away from something called "tornado alley".

Eurotrash, Asia-fags and North American neanderthal morons would all justifiably laugh at someone who continues to pitch a tent on a freeway after getting hit by cars over and over again, so it's really not too far out of line to point out that perhaps Dorothy and her family should move somewhere else. It doesn't matter if you've put "roots" there, as nearly everyone on the planet who isn't an energy-industry lobbyist will tell you those roots will eventually be ripped out of the ground by yet another mile-wide F5 tornado...which due to climate change will happen more and more often.

Lol wut?...

GONNAFISTYA wrote:lol the faux yank outrage in this thread is laughable.

Yes, your chances of an ENTIRE TOWN NOT BEING ERASED FROM EXISTENCE would indeed IMPROVE if you made your buildings out of brick and mortar. Why you fools are arguing against that is nothing short of retardation writ large as all you're doing is defending your practices of building shit as cheaply as possible.

But I have a better idea that, for some reason, isn't even being considered: move away from something called "tornado alley".

Eurotrash, Asia-fags and North American neanderthal morons would all justifiably laugh at someone who continues to pitch a tent on a freeway after getting hit by cars over and over again, so it's really not too far out of line to point out that perhaps Dorothy and her family should move somewhere else. It doesn't matter if you've put "roots" there, as nearly everyone on the planet who isn't an energy-industry lobbyist will tell you those roots will eventually be ripped out of the ground by yet another mile-wide F5 tornado...which due to climate change will happen more and more often.

I'm not sure who you're referring to, but I didn't see anyone arguing that brick and mortar is not the optimal building choice. I did, however, state that we already build our homes out of brick.

And as for not living here...sorry, but the fact is, the majority of all the energy and food comes from tornado alley. People need to live here so others can live elsewhere...

They should farm on the moon...it's safer there.

Seriously. Millions of people live on the edge of active volcanos. Millions of people live on an active fault line. Billions of people live on the coast where a tsunami can wipe out 250,000 people. "lol, living there is dumb" just isn't going to cut it...

Morons in this thread seem to be confusing the two different discussions going on here:

1. Will a tornado of this size fuck up an average well constructed house regardless of what it's made of?
   • No shit. A tornado of this size will obliterate virtually anything in its path, short of a military grade bunker.
   • There are some immense forces in the center of that vortex, high velocity winds and flying projectiles, immense pressure differences that can pop eardrums and lift anything that's on the ground and toss it a mile up in the air.
2. Should you build your house out of plywood and white glue?
   • No, you Amurrican hick. Just because a tornado touching down directly on your house won't save you doesn't mean you should build a lean-to out of balsa wood because that won't exactly hold up even if you're half a mile away from the tornado, will it.
   • A lot of houses in stoopidville have no foundation. They're just concrete pads with a wooden framed sitting on top, coated with plywood on the outside and drywall on the inside. So no shit the entire thing lifts off like an Apollo rocket when there is a mere gust of wind.
   • Don't tornado alley states have any building codes that they are supposed to follow? Or is it another case of these gun hording Confederate flag waving yuppies complaining about, "don't ya guv'ment tell me how tuh build my yonder house and infringe upon mah conshutooshunal freedoms."?

Also, the "don't live there" argument is pretty shit. The entire planet is a great big ringed circle target for meteors, that drunk guy driving a tractor trailer/garbage truck/construction vehicle might just plow through your house, you might have a sink hole open up beneath you, that gas line under your house might leak, an electrical short in your house might set it on fire.... really? Living in a cave seems relatively safe, let's all do that.

It's amazing how ignorant and naive euros are...they are so dumb they have convinced themselves they are smart... ...

Nah, caves collapse.

The moon is our only hope.

... as opposed to Texans who are so sunburned that they have convinced themselves that they have class.... ...

Class is for morons...

Interesting reddit post on Why Wood?
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comme ... ld/c1rguko



Also, you see a lot of wood in the OK debris because many of the brick houses still have wooden frames..the entire thing isn't build of cinder-blocks like a larger industrial structure would be.

thx obsidian for pointing that out. Nowhere was I claiming that a brick house would survive an F5 tornado, but I do believe the construction quality of the average Dutch house is miles better than the average American house, due to us using brick rather than plywood.

shaft wrote:the entire thing isn't build of cinder-blocks like a larger industrial structure would be.

you mean like an average 20th century European house would be

What do u mean use brick instead of plywood? That doesn't even make sense...

And cinder blocks go down as easy as 2x4's in a tornado...

Eraser wrote:

shaft wrote:the entire thing isn't build of cinder-blocks like a larger industrial structure would be.

you mean like an average 20th century European house would be

Probably, but I guess when you have 20x the population of the Netherlands its pretty costly to build 100 million homes without the use of our cheapest natural resource.

I dunno, you wouldn't build a house with just cinder blocks either. Bricks and cinder blocks have a lot of vertical compression strength, put is pretty poor on lateral strength, meaning that you can pile a heavy roof on top, but if you pushed it from the side it would still topple over like a stack of children's wood blocks.

Typical Canadian homes have a concrete filled basement, on top of which is a wood and/or steel frame anchored into the concrete foundation. Load bearing walls are lined with plywood on the outside, followed by cinder blocks, and then double lined bricks. Interiors are lined with insulation (styrofoam panels, or fiberglass), wood or aluminium frames and then drywall.

If a tornado hit our house I am certain the car port conversion would survive no problem...

A tornado couldn't make it look any worse...

scared? wrote:If a tornado hit our house I am certain the car port conversion would survive no problem...

lol, your 'house' couldn't survive a case of woodworm.

obsidian wrote:I dunno, you wouldn't build a house with just cinder blocks either. Bricks and cinder blocks have a lot of vertical compression strength, put is pretty poor on lateral strength, meaning that you can pile a heavy roof on top, but if you pushed it from the side it would still topple over like a stack of children's wood blocks.

Typical Canadian homes have a concrete filled basement, on top of which is a wood and/or steel frame anchored into the concrete foundation. Load bearing walls are lined with plywood on the outside, followed by cinder blocks, and then double lined bricks. Interiors are lined with insulation (styrofoam panels, or fiberglass), wood or aluminium frames and then drywall.

Yes, many houses don't have the cinder blocks behind the bricks. Its essentially a timber frame home with a brick facade.

scared? wrote:If a tornado hit our house I am certain the car port conversion would survive no problem...

You might get to test that out shortly..

http://weather.aol.com/2013/05/21/live- ... ern-texas/