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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:07 pm
by Guest
Duhard wrote:Image
What is this?
Pete

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:39 pm
by [xeno]Julios
pete wrote:
Good evening my friends.

As I was watching the stars I was just wondering about things like this one.

I think, as the earth turn on itself 24 hours as we dedicated it for a day…
365 days around the sun for a year.
We are getting closer and closer to the solar system, as we had thrown a ball into it and every day we are getting closer to it, so this is what they call the global warming but it is just natural.
I think that we just go from one elevation to another which take maybe 50 years for some and 500 years for others and we are there.
The sun is a massive mass of energy which attract a whole amount of other massive mass. I believe it attracts everything to it and since we are part of it , attract us.


Pete
_________________
Sometimes you have to keep it simple!
pete... dude - we went over this before - the mass of the sun DOES attract the mass of the earth. But it doesn't mean the earth is slowly getting closer to the sun.

Why do you think satellites don't fall towards earth all the time? They're in ORBIT.

The earth attracts the satellites but it doesn't necessarily pull them closer.

You need to understand the concept of an ORBIT, and acceleration.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:51 pm
by Guest
[xeno]Julios wrote:
pete wrote:
Good evening my friends.

As I was watching the stars I was just wondering about things like this one.

I think, as the earth turn on itself 24 hours as we dedicated it for a day…
365 days around the sun for a year.
We are getting closer and closer to the solar system, as we had thrown a ball into it and every day we are getting closer to it, so this is what they call the global warming but it is just natural.
I think that we just go from one elevation to another which take maybe 50 years for some and 500 years for others and we are there.
The sun is a massive mass of energy which attract a whole amount of other massive mass. I believe it attracts everything to it and since we are part of it , attract us.


Pete
_________________
Sometimes you have to keep it simple!
pete... dude - we went over this before - the mass of the sun DOES attract the mass of the earth. But it doesn't mean the earth is slowly getting closer to the sun.
Why do you think satellites don't fall towards earth all the time? They're in ORBIT.

The earth attracts the satellites but it doesn't necessarily pull them closer.

You need to understand the concept of an ORBIT, and acceleration.
Isn't it a bit paradoxical.
And the earth won't attract the satellites because they are much of the same mass I guess. The sun will attract them more than the earth can.
Plus we should discuss of this in my thread I think [url]For the TNFs in here Help me understand Cosmos[/url]Pete

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:02 pm
by R00k
tnf wrote:Just watched his coached response on TV. Absolutely pathetic. The guy looks like a high school kid trying to give a speech to the class - but is not confident enough in the material to actually talk to the class...instead having to look down and read directly from their notes. Bush doesn't have the capacity to do a bit of 'speaking from the heart' regarding a disaster like this and that is really pathetic... His constant reading of virtually every scheduled statement he makes drives me nuts.
Yea I know. And it's tempting for me to make speculations about his seeming inability to identify with loss or tragedy. But I'm not a psychologist, and I honestly don't know everything the dolt has been through in his life. I know that he hasn't ever lost a mother or father - I believe he lost a sibling, but I think that might have been when he was too young to remember.

Whatever the reason, it seems like he has a genuinely hard time understanding the hardships of people. All his speeches - from 9/11 victims to soldiers' family members - just seem like well-written PR devices that say most of the right things. As long as he isn't put in a position where he has to ad-lib, he sounds fairly sincere.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:03 pm
by R00k
pete wrote: Plus we should discuss of this in my thread I think [url]For the TNFs in here Help me understand Cosmos[/url]Pete
:olo: Good try Pete.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:07 pm
by glossy
R00k wrote:
pete wrote: Plus we should discuss of this in my thread I think [url]For the TNFs in here Help me understand Cosmos[/url]Pete
:olo: Good try Pete.
Sometimes you have to keep it simple!

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:27 pm
by Guest
RE: Good try Pete.
I meant the part of it like I think, as the earth turn on itself 24 hours as we dedicated it for a day…
365 days around the sun for a year.
We are getting closer and closer to the solar system, as we had thrown a ball into it and every day we are getting closer to it, so this is what they call the global warming but it is just natural.
I think that we just go from one elevation to another which take maybe 50 years for some and 500 years for others and we are there.
The sun is a massive mass of energy which attract a whole amount of other massive mass. I believe it attracts everything to it and since we are part of it , attract us.

Was talking about this before Katrina occur.
Nothing to do with the hurricane at the time but now it is a part of it I guess. Just watch the date of my post 18 of august.
It wasn't even in florida yet, in fact not mentioned of it anywhere arround here at least.
So this is an entire other subject.
Anyone else admit?
Pete

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:47 pm
by Guest
And you know what...
Is it the samething in your area?
We are talking more about the petroleum crisis and the increase in gas because of that catastrofy than what is happening with the people.
SHAME.
Pete

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:47 pm
by shiznit
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:48 pm
by [xeno]Julios
no pete - you're wrong on this. The earth is not hurtling toward the sun like a ball being thrown into a large object. Get rid of that metaphor in your mind - it's infecting your ability to see any other possibilities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbit

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:52 pm
by tnf
pete wrote:RE: Good try Pete.
I meant the part of it like I think, as the earth turn on itself 24 hours as we dedicated it for a day…
365 days around the sun for a year.
We are getting closer and closer to the solar system, as we had thrown a ball into it and every day we are getting closer to it, so this is what they call the global warming but it is just natural.
I think that we just go from one elevation to another which take maybe 50 years for some and 500 years for others and we are there.
The sun is a massive mass of energy which attract a whole amount of other massive mass. I believe it attracts everything to it and since we are part of it , attract us.

Was talking about this before Katrina occur.
Nothing to do with the hurricane at the time but now it is a part of it I guess. Just watch the date of my post 18 of august.
It wasn't even in florida yet, in fact not mentioned of it anywhere arround here at least.
So this is an entire other subject.
Anyone else admit?
Pete
Pete you really need to get a grip on gravity and orbit...and how something can actually continually 'fall' while in orbit around another body.

To give you a simple example that might clarify a bit -
imagine that the earth was perfectly smooth, no mountains, no valleys, just flat and spherical. Now, imagine you could shoot a cannon such that the cannonball's trajectory as it fell would match the curvature of the earth. what would the cannonball do? it would continually oribit the planet (more or less).

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:57 pm
by Guest
[xeno]Julios wrote:no pete - you're wrong on this. The earth is not hurtling toward the sun like a ball being thrown into a large object. Get rid of that metaphor in your mind - it's infecting your ability to see any other possibilities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbit
Thanks bro.
But I have my theory.
Just have to work on it a bit more.
I want to elaborate on it more before to make it comprehend to everyone else but I am pretty pretty sure from what I have been observing, studying.
A lot of work to do but I am pretty sure I am on to something.
LOL at me I don't care much. No offense. I am patient and perseverent.
Pete

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:01 am
by Turbine
shiznit wrote:Image
I got to go loot me some laptops down there.
Any what to get there with a plane?

How about I loot myself a Cesna?

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:11 am
by losCHUNK
new sig

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:13 am
by Guest
tnf wrote:
pete wrote:RE: Good try Pete.
I meant the part of it like I think, as the earth turn on itself 24 hours as we dedicated it for a day…
365 days around the sun for a year.
We are getting closer and closer to the solar system, as we had thrown a ball into it and every day we are getting closer to it, so this is what they call the global warming but it is just natural.
I think that we just go from one elevation to another which take maybe 50 years for some and 500 years for others and we are there.
The sun is a massive mass of energy which attract a whole amount of other massive mass. I believe it attracts everything to it and since we are part of it , attract us.

Was talking about this before Katrina occur.
Nothing to do with the hurricane at the time but now it is a part of it I guess. Just watch the date of my post 18 of august.
It wasn't even in florida yet, in fact not mentioned of it anywhere arround here at least.
So this is an entire other subject.
Anyone else admit?
Pete
Pete you really need to get a grip on gravity and orbit...and how something can actually continually 'fall' while in orbit around another body.

To give you a simple example that might clarify a bit -
imagine that the earth was perfectly smooth, no mountains, no valleys, just flat and spherical. Now, imagine you could shoot a cannon such that the cannonball's trajectory as it fell would match the curvature of the earth. what would the cannonball do? it would continually oribit the planet (more or less).
Thanks sir TNF.

If I can put it this way...
I once lived with a girl whom had a 2YOboy remember may be from an old post you made me cry He asked me all sorts of questions, super intelligent black boy. Wendell is his name. He asked me things like why do we see stars at night and not during the day...
Why is the neightbor madame's belly so big?

I don't know as a child with no instruction and living from life...I am a bit like a child who never studied in these area and have now a simplist though about it all. You understand what I mean?
Pete

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:29 am
by glossy
losCHUNK wrote:new sig
http://tetriskatrina.ytmnd.com/ ^_^

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:30 am
by Turbine
To big.

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:30 am
by [xeno]Julios
Pete:

you also have to understand that there have been many ice ages in earth's past. So in order for this to fit with your theory, you'd need to have the earth falling toward the sun, then moving away, and back toward, and back away, like a yoyo.

doesn't make much sense eh

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:31 am
by glossy
[xeno]Julios wrote:Pete:

you also have to understand that there have been many ice ages in earth's past. So in order for this to fit with your theory, you'd need to have the earth falling toward the sun, then moving away, and back toward, and back away, like a yoyo.

doesn't make much sense eh
elliptical orbit

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:36 am
by R00k
An elliptical orbit would mean that we would have an ice age every year. Which we kinda do, but it's called winter.

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:38 am
by Guest
[xeno]Julios wrote:Pete:

you also have to understand that there have been many ice ages in earth's past. So in order for this to fit with your theory, you'd need to have the earth falling toward the sun, then moving away, and back toward, and back away, like a yoyo.

doesn't make much sense eh
Not sure
You mean cold equal far away and normal equal closer and so on.
I didn't know that there were such though.
Pete

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:41 am
by Foo
language may prove a barrier in this discussion, sadly.

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:42 am
by glossy
R00k wrote:An elliptical orbit would mean that we would have an ice age every year. Which we kinda do, but it's called winter.
an elliptical orbit would also mean we go closer and further away from ("like a yoyo"), but at the period of one year. don't forget that winter is different on each side of the hemisphere

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:44 am
by R00k
Yea I was trying to Keep it Simple though!

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:45 am
by glossy
:p