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What I think Insensatez was trying to say is that thinking humans could travel to Europa is more arrogant than thinking humans could colonize Mars.

Eraser wrote:What I think Insensatez was trying to say is that thinking humans could travel to Europa is more arrogant than thinking humans could colonize Mars.

correct!

I was following the conversation, interesting topic and a huge experimemt for science. Great pictures were posted of what the rover saw, they have managed to make the rover take a 120 degree turn, which scientist were all exited about.

My points are:

1) Big projects like sending a rover across the solar system to a designated location with several measurement instruments cost alot of money. We humans, specifically the ones who govern nations) on the other hand are far more interested in taking care of our own shit (fighting wars over resources, land, some involving some genocide because we just don't like the other ones). We will keep spending dollars on things like this, until we run out of energy resources or ways to turn these resources into energy needed for our homes, commerce and industry.

2)If we do have substantial finances to support a project so we could land some humans on Mars and build a base there, and lets say we find a lifeform, even on mars, it's probably not going to happen because by the time we get there, there won't be enough resources left to get us there and the effects of global warming will be off the scale by then, so we would be back to step 1, solving our own shit

3) If it weren't be for the heavy pollution that started in the industrial age and the, again money based religious biggotery for building their own wealth and building more places of worship to convert more people to convince them that the way of the lord is the only way, instead of what (truth given, a minority of scientist and free thinkers) were saying over 200 years ago to invest in the future and not in the fairy tales of some books some blokes wrote 5000-ish to 1500-ish years ago, we would be alot further now, investing money in what is truely important, perhaps we already would have a base on Mars by now.

4) replying to GKY sub par reply reply to me that I think all living things need the sun as a form of battery for sustaining life, you do realise that there have been bacteria found Who live in craters of volcanoes , living in an environment where the main composition of found matter is sulfur

5) Same goes for Obsidian stating that wherever there's water, it's plausible that there may be some form of life (see 3)

GONNAFISTYA wrote:We aren't talking about "complex life"...just life. And as was pointed out several times, nobody is talking about whether or not it suits human life, which is what your chart of the Goldilocks Zone indicates.

You were however pointing out that, given that where there is ice, there is a probability that underneath that ice there is a liquid that could be water, but might I add there are many other liquids that turn to a solid state. We do not even know that this solid state of the liquid form turns out to be water, it could be be made out of toxins, and yes , we are not talking about planet Earth, what's toxic for some organisms here might not be for the ones that we may or may not find on Europa. It's still stays at the point of alot of guessing and it's not an event we will be experiencing in this lifetime of ours. Great stuff for sci-fi novel writers, or maybe a concept for one of your future employers script writers and artists/designers.

Insensatez wrote:We do not even know that this solid state of the liquid form turns out to be water, it could be be made out of toxins, and yes , we are not talking about planet Earth, what's toxic for some organisms here might not be for the ones that we may or may not find on Europa.

Oh yeah, like those aliens in Signs

Eraser wrote:

Insensatez wrote:We do not even know that this solid state of the liquid form turns out to be water, it could be be made out of toxins, and yes , we are not talking about planet Earth, what's toxic for some organisms here might not be for the ones that we may or may not find on Europa.

Oh yeah, like those aliens in Signs

indeed, atleast it's interesting for sci-fi script writers

Life could be in quite a few places in out little solar system. Not complex life, but life none the less. It would fuck a lot of people up if it was found, which would amuse me greatly.

I wonder how religion would cope with it?

They put some all explaining religious spin on it. Don't worry.

so. atari 2600's asteroids then.

Hell of a view.

wow

nice!

btw is there any source where we can read what the actual resolution is of the camera which takes these pics?

They are all cropped, and i wondered if there are wallpaper resolution images, about 1920x1080?

Hey looks, it Arizona

Don Carlos wrote:Hey looks, it Arizona

Not enough Mexican.

Whiskey 7 wrote:Someone mumbled/mentioned somewhere about photos of UFOs taken by the Curiosity rover.

Anyone hear of same?

FUCK OFF

so suddenly we're into non-Curiosity photos now?

is that a gaming token on the ground?

seremtan wrote:so suddenly we're into non-Curiosity photos now?

You're correct. It was (and is) labeled wrong on quite a few sites. My bad.

which is odd, since there are several massive clues that it isn't Curiosity in the picture

Solar for one? @_@

And the name "Opportunity" in the file name's directory.

I guess we're all getting swept up in the potential discoveries. Which isn't a bad thing with all the other crap going on. It's the one continuing news story that doesn't remind us how crappy the human race is.

and the fact that Curiosity is in a shallow basin while that's on a hillside and the sheer amount of dust that's accumulated on the rover, suggesting a lengthier stay than a couple of weeks

what's with the teal hue? over-photoshoped or is that how it really looks?

GONNAFISTYA wrote:It's the one continuing news story that doesn't remind us how crappy the human race is.

That sums it up pretty well.

Doombrain wrote:

Whiskey 7 wrote:Someone mumbled/mentioned somewhere about photos of UFOs taken by the Curiosity rover.

Anyone hear of same?

FUCK OFF

Why so harsh

Memphis wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/21/ufos-on-mars-curiosity-rover_n_1813726.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular#slide=1406281

If blob = aliens

Thanks Memphis as I was particularly interested as it didn't make any public news here.
I googled and found similar stories so thanks